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How to Work Through a Trigger

In today’s episode, we’re talking about how to navigate emotional triggers in a healthy and constructive way. Whether it’s a comment, an argument, or even an unexpected event, triggers can send us into emotional overdrive, leaving us feeling overwhelmed and disconnected from ourselves. But with the right tools, you can slow down the spiral and regain control over your emotions.

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In today’s episode, we’re talking about how to navigate emotional triggers in a healthy and constructive way. Whether it’s a comment, an argument, or even an unexpected event, triggers can send us into emotional overdrive, leaving us feeling overwhelmed and disconnected from ourselves. But with the right tools, you can slow down the spiral and regain control over your emotions.

I’ll guide you through a simple, four-step process to help you work through triggers in real time. We’ll explore how to pause and ground yourself, tune into what’s happening in your body, examine the story you’re telling yourself about the situation, and identify what you truly need to move forward.

If you’ve ever felt hijacked by your emotions and want practical steps to bring more calm and clarity to these moments, this episode is for you.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • Why we get triggered and how the body responds to perceived threats

  • The importance of pausing and creating space before reacting

  • How to tune into your body to notice sensations and ground yourself

  • Questions to help you check the story you’re telling yourself about the situation

  • How to discern whether you need to have a conversation or if you can genuinely let it go

  • Identifying what you need to feel empowered and move forward

Download the free cheat sheet on How to Work Through a Trigger here


Navigating Emotional Triggers: Strategies for Growth and Healing

Emotional triggers are an unavoidable part of life, surfacing in our various relationships — be it romantic, familial, friendships, or even work environments. These triggers often stem from unresolved emotional baggage and can manifest unexpectedly, leaving us feeling out of control. Understanding how to manage these responses is key to fostering healthier relationships and a more secure sense of self.

Recognising Triggers

Triggers are essentially emotional flashpoints that draw a swift and often intense reaction. These moments tap into our past experiences, fears, or insecurities, causing us to react defensively or regretfully. It's not uncommon to look back at these reactions with a sense of bewilderment, wondering why we behaved in such a way. Recognising that these responses are messages from our body can be a crucial first step in managing them.

The Importance of Pausing

When faced with a trigger, the immediate goal should be to pause. The simple act of pausing creates a moment of separation between stimulus and response, allowing an opportunity to choose a considered reaction rather than an impulsive one. It prevents the escalation of emotions and offers a chance to respond from a grounded state.

Understanding the Body’s Response

Physiological responses to triggers are usually rapid, driven by the sympathetic nervous system. The surge of adrenaline and cortisol can make the heart race and induce a state of fight or flight. This physiological response was originally meant for survival, but in modern-day emotional scenarios, it often does more harm than good.

When triggered, tuning into bodily sensations can help ground you. Noticing where you feel tension—perhaps a racing heart or a warm flush—can anchor you in the present moment. This awareness serves as a reminder that while your body is reacting, the situation is not necessarily a threat to your survival.

Shifting Focus

If paying attention to certain bodily sensations exacerbates your stress, then redirecting your focus can be helpful. Shifting attention to neutral or pleasant sensations, like the feel of your feet on the ground or your hands resting softly, can draw you back to a state of calm and control.

Tools for Regulation

Having an array of regulation techniques to draw from can significantly aid in managing emotional triggers. Deep breathing exercises can slow down the heart rate, while physiological sighs—where you take a deep breath in, followed by a second, smaller breath before exhaling slowly—can reset the nervous system. Physical comforts like heat packs or weighted blankets can also bring a sense of security and relaxation.

Engaging Rational Thought

Once you’ve grounded yourself, bringing the rational mind back online is crucial. The rational brain often shuts down during an emotional trigger, leaving instinctual responses to take over. Therefore, it’s helpful to focus on questioning your responses: What story are you telling yourself? What fears or feelings are at play? Are these thoughts grounded in reality, or do they stem from past experiences?

Being able to distil your reactions down to these elements can provide clarity and open up a pathway to more insightful responses.

Communicating About Triggers

Effective communication about triggers in relationships can prevent future feelings of invalidation and misunderstanding. It’s important to approach conversations about triggers with empathy and consideration for both perspectives involved. For example, using “I feel” statements to express your emotions rather than making accusations can lead to more constructive dialogue.

When discussing triggers with partners or others, expressing your feelings plainly and making reasonable requests for future interactions can dissolve tension rather than escalate it.

Choosing When to Let Go

Not every trigger needs to be addressed through a detailed conversation. It’s essential to discern which issues require a resolution and which can be let go. With avoidant partners in particular, pressing every issue can be counterproductive. Letting go means truly releasing the subject without harbouring resentment, thus maintaining emotional balance and relationship harmony.

Turning Triggers into Opportunities

While triggers can be intensely challenging, they also hold the potential for significant personal growth and relationship healing. These moments, though painful, provide insight into unhealed areas and sensitivities that need attention. Developing emotional maturity and utilising self-care tools can transform these triggers from disruptive events into opportunities for repair and deeper understanding.

By recognising and rewriting old stories of distrust or hurt, healing becomes possible. Subsequent triggers need not feel overwhelming; instead, they can become bearers of important messages about your inner world, urging you towards greater self-awareness and emotional intelligence.

Adopting new, intentional responses to triggers is a crucial step towards personal development and stronger, safer relationships. Emotional triggers are a natural part of the human experience, but with the right tools and approaches, they can lead to profound healing and growth.

Embrace the challenge of working through your triggers for a more resilient, balanced, and fulfilling emotional life.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. When faced with an emotional trigger, do you find it challenging to pause and create space before reacting? How do you think this initial pause could change the outcome of your interactions?

  2. What physical sensations do you commonly experience when triggered? Can you identify strategies that help you ground yourself and bring safety back to your body?

  3. Reflect on a recent time when you were triggered. What story were you telling yourself in that moment? How might this story be linked to past experiences or unhealed areas?

  4. How do you typically respond when your partner or close friend triggers you? What might it look like to approach these situations with more empathy and understanding of both perspectives?

  5. Think about a trigger that you chose not to discuss with someone. Did you truly let go of the issue, or do you feel lingering resentment? What steps could you take to fully release it?

  6. Consider the last time you felt intense emotions during a triggering event. How did these emotions affect your rational thinking? What methods can you use to bring your rational brain back online in such moments?

  7. Do you practise questioning absolute judgments and adopting generous interpretations when triggered? How do you think this mindset shifts could impact your relationships?

  8. What role does personal responsibility play in your reactions to triggers? How can acknowledging your part in emotional responses foster healthier dynamics with others?

  9. Which issues in your relationships do you feel genuinely require resolution conversations, and which could you let go? How do you distinguish between the two?

  10. Reflect on how your attachment style influences your response to triggers. How can understanding your attachment style help you develop more effective self-care tools and communication strategies?


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Episode Transcript

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In today's episode, we are talking all about how to work through a trigger. So there was an episode that I did two and a half years ago at the very start of this podcast. It was one of the first few episodes, and it was called 5 steps to working through a trigger. And it was a really you know, I got a lot of positive feedback at the time.

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And so I've always had in my head, like, I've already done an episode on on working through a trigger. But then I sort of zoomed out and realized that that was two and a half years ago, and that the vast majority of you have joined my community since then. And so it's probably a topic worth revisiting because triggers really are a fact of being an imperfect, messy human in imperfect, messy relationships. They affect our romantic relationships, our familial relationships, our friendships, our working relationships. They can really pop up all over the place. And I think that while there's probably a correlation between how much unprocessed wounding and and baggage, so to speak, we're carrying around. I think that the more of that you have under your belt, the more likely you are to be very sensitive and reactive, easily triggered. Even, I think, when you've done a lot of work, you can find yourself in situations that activate something within you.

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Maybe someone says something in a particular tone or doesn't say something, and all of a sudden you notice this big response arising in your body. And, for anyone who has had that experience, which I think is most everyone, knows that it can feel almost out of body. It can feel like something is hijacking your system and driving you to snap back or react in ways that you ordinarily wouldn't or that you'd rather not, you know, that are not in alignment with your highest self or your most emotionally mature self. It's amazing how we can regress into this very defensive self protective part when we feel triggered or activated, and it can feel really out of control. And so I think that having a process that allows you to work through a trigger is a very, very empowering thing because it allows you to create that pause, create that space, and feel like you can actually learn from the moment, the experience, rather than, you know, having it hijack your system and maybe make matters a lot worse. By taking an offhand comment and turning it into a whole spiraling rupture in a relationship where you then snap back and say something that you regret and so on and so forth. So I think that having a clear methodology or protocol for yourself around, oh, okay. Like, I feel competent in managing myself and my body and my mind when I'm triggered rather than feeling like I'm at the mercy of my own system and the world around me.

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I think that that really allows you to build self trust and trust in the safety of relationships because you're less likely to have ruptures left, right, and center and feel like relationships are a bit of a war zone for you. And I think that then pays dividends because your relationships are likely to be less triggering the less reactive you become. So that's what we're going to be talking about today. And I wanted to say at the outset, I'm going to be outlining kind of a process for you to work through a trigger and to make life a little bit easier. I know most people listen on the go rather than sitting down with a pen and paper. I've made a little PDF that's just a bit of a cheat sheet, a one pager outlining the steps that I'm going to share in this episode. So if you want to download that cheat sheet and you can, you know, save it on your phone or have it nearby so that in the moment you can grab it and have something to lean on, you can download that by following the link in the show notes or heading straight to my website. Hopefully that will support you and provide a bit of a structure while you're still learning.

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So before we get into the nitty gritty of all of that, just a reminder. I know I've shared the past few weeks, that I have a couple of events coming up in Australia. So I have a 3 night retreat coming up next May in Byron Bay, which is a very, very beautiful location. If you're not familiar with it, Google it. All the details are on my website. There are still some early bird spots available for anyone who would like to join. And, yeah, if you're interested in doing some deep work over a few days in an incredible location with a great bunch of people, then definitely come join us. The second one is a weekend intensive that I'm running in Sydney, so it's just a 2 day thing rather than an overnight one.

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And we'll be doing, you know, a condensed version of my secure self challenge in the course of a weekend. So if you wanna spend a weekend with me at the end of November in Sydney, diving deep into all things self worth, getting clarity around where you're stuck, and really formulating a plan to move your life in the direction that you really want to go with a strong foundation of healthy self esteem and self worth and self confidence, I would love to see you there and you can sign up directly on my website. Okay, so let's talk about how to work through a trigger. So if you've been a listener for a while or you've done any of my programs, you've probably heard me talk about the difference between top down and bottom up approaches to healing, to therapy, to processing trauma or attachment wounds. And the distinction there is basically, you know, do we start with the thinking mind or do we start with the somathe somatic body and the somatic imprint of something. We try and change what is happening in the body by using the mind, or do we try and change what's happening in the mind by using the body? Now, I think that when it comes to working through triggers in particular, it's really, really essential that we start with the body. Because for many people, as I said, you feel this sense of your system being hijacked. You can feel like your body's on fire, your chest is thumping, your stomach churns.

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All of those experiences are very much of the body, and that's our sympathetic nervous system that is just firing up, that is activating, that is mobilising, and telling us, you know, something is threatening about this. Something doesn't feel safe, something doesn't feel good. Maybe I'm feeling attacked, maybe I'm, you know, feeling like something very bad is about to happen. Maybe I'm feeling shame, or I'm feeling anxiety, I'm feeling stress, I'm feeling insulted. Any of these things, your body responds almost instantaneously before your mind even has really caught up. Right? And because those experiences tend to originate in the body, it's really important that we start there. Because if you are in that experienceand again, I'm sure most everyone listening can relate to thisjust trying to think your way out of it or rationalise your way out of it it's almost like your body's moving at a faster pace than your mind. And it actually is that your body is moving at a faster pace than your mind.

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Oftentimes when we're really in a stress response like that, our prefrontal cortex, our thinking brain, our rational brain is offline, more or less. And so we don't really have access to that anyway. So trying to rationalize or reason our way out of a really intense stress response, which is what's happening when we're triggered in a very acute way, it tends not to be very effective. And as a side note, that's really so many of us will have had the experience where if something happens and we're really caught off guard and we're really triggered, we're really activated, and afterwards, a couple of hours later or days later, you can go, Oh, why didn't I say this? Or, Why did I just stand there? We retrospectively apply our reasonable thinking brain to what was very much a somatic experience in the moment, and we then judge ourselves or shame ourselves for how we responded. But I think it's really useful to remind ourselves that we didn't do all of that because we didn't have access to all of that. We didn't have access to empathy or reason or quick wit or any of those things. We were responding or reacting from a much more instinctual, primal, self protective place. So because of that and knowing that, working with what is going on in our body, 1st and foremost, tends to be most effective in working through a trigger in a way that creates some space, creates more regulation, creates more groundedness, so that we can deliberately bring our prefrontal cortex, our thinking brain, back online and be able to use that as a resource to then eventually process the situation.

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But trying to start there is putting the cart before the horse. So all of that being said, the first thing that I want you to do when you notice that you are being triggered, that you have been triggered, that something is activating, is just to pause. Okay? The pause can be a total lifesaver, relationship saver. Because as you'll know, when you get triggered, everything speeds up. That is the inclination, that's where your body goes, and that is a function of your sympathetic nervous system, is to speed everything up. Adrenaline, cortisol, everything starts pumping. It's trying to mobilize you into fast action. Right? It's really important that you try and counteract that rather than just leaning into that accelerant that's happening in your system.

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You know, if you are wanting to be able to respond from a grounded place, you're going to need to pause really deliberately and create some space for yourself. It's a very straightforward thing to be able to remember. Simple, but not easy. But nevertheless, if you can go, okay, I'm intrigued. Pause. That's my only job in this moment, is just to pause. Even just that little simple act of pausing will buy you some time and space, and that is really, really critical because that's where we get to change direction. That's where we get to create new pathways for ourselves, rather than just doing the old thing from muscle memory from autopilot that, you know, then reinforces that as the way that we respond.

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So just pause. Now, depending on what circumstances you find yourself in, if you're in a conversation with someone, they're right in front of you, and you're really triggered. That pause might need to be accompanied by removing yourself from the situation temporarily. So if you're in a conversation, you might have to say, I'm just gonna go to the bathroom, or I just need a minute, or whatever. Find a way to extract yourself because it's going to be somewhat challenging to take yourself through the process of of working through the trigger. If the person who is really triggering to you and who's just said something or done something is sitting right in front of you, it's going to be hard because your system is still perceiving them as a threat. And so it's going to be quite challenging to override that overwhelming sense that there is something threatening right in front of me that I need to be dealing with. I need to do something about that threat.

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So you might be swimming too much against the tide to be trying to ground your system and calm down if you're really face to face with whatever it is that's feeling very triggering to you. So depending on where you're at, you if you are in direct proximity to someone or something that is triggering, it is usually wise to extract yourself, particularly at the start when you're still learning how to do this, when you've still got your training wheels on. So pausing and maybe taking some space for yourself. The next thing that I want you to do once you've done that and you've got that space to process is just to turn your attention inward. So notice what's happening in your body. So that might be racing hot. It might be a real churning in your belly. It might be heat in your face.

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It might be like your vision feels a bit disoriented, you might feel a bit dizzy, and there's a good chance that those sensations, those somatic experiences, are things that you have felt before. There's probably a long history of your body creating those responses to similar emotional states or similar feelings. It's like someone strikes the cord and your body knows what that feels like, and it's transporting you throughout the history of your life to all the other times you've felt that, which as a side note, and we'll come to this in a second, is why it can feel so much bigger and deeper and more painful than maybe the situation warrants. Because we are sort of being transported through time and coming to that moment with this accumulation of all of our previous experiences and all the other times we've felt that pain. And so we're responding to a lifetime of, you know, pain and wounding and sensitivity rather than just what is actually happening in that moment. So tuning into those sensations of the body and just noticing. That's your next only job. Okay? I think, again, as we move through this process of working through a trigger, rather than trying to solve the whole situation, rather than trying to figure out what you're going to say to this person or what you're going to do, I really want you to try and narrow your focus to the present moment.

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And so your first job is just to pause, your second job is just to notice. So what is going on in my body? What sensations are there? Right? And oftentimes, the turning inwards and the pausing to notice, because you're giving your brain a job to notice, that can distract from the escalation. Right? So that can pull you away from this mounting, snowballing stress. Now for some people, I will just say as a side note, some people will say, when I tune into the sensations of my body, that actually makes it worse, because if I notice that my heart is thumping, then I feel like that causes me more stress, and it kind of, you know, accentuates rather than the stress that I'm feeling. If that's true for you, then something else that you might try is finding a sensation in your body that feels good or neutral. So rather than focusing on the things that feel very stressful to you, if that's your experience, you might, you know, notice your feet planted in the floor. You might notice put your hands together and just notice the sensation of pressure from squeezing your hands together. So finding something that feels at least neutral, or ideally even good or comfortable, and training your attention to be in that sensation and to try and inhabit or embody that sensation with as much of your awareness as is possible and accessible to you, that can be quite a grounding experience that can buy you, again, a bit more space, a bit more time, a bit more pause, and hopefully a bit more regulation.

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As a follow on from that, now depending on your body, your system, that in and of itself, that process of noticing might be grounding. If not, and even if it is, you'll usually benefit from then really deliberately taking it a step further, and beyond just the noticing of what's happening in your body, trying to bring some safety back into your body. So that might look like taking some long, deep breaths, accentuating your exhale, doing some physiological sighs, humming. You might even, you know, lie on your bed in a fetal position. You might hug a pillow. All of these things that are quite grounding and create a sense of safety and presence in the body, they can be really, really helpful in the moment ways to bring you back into the here and now. And that's again, as I said, that's really the purpose of all of this, is to remind you that I'm here right now and I'm okay, because your triggered system is going to try and convince you otherwise, and it can be extremely persuasive in doing that. So bringing a bit more regulation into the body.

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Again, if you've done my healing anxious attachment course or some of my other programs, we build out a whole toolkit of ways to regulate your nervous system. And I'm sure that you can, you know, find a long list of things just by googling it, you know, tools for nervous system regulation. But any of those things, it's really important in this process of growth to to build out your own toolkit so that you have a lot of things to hand, and you know what to offer your own body when you need it in the moment. You know what works for you. Some other things that I like are like a heat pack or a weighted blanket, those sorts of things that can create a sense of containment and feel like you are held and anchored. All of those things tend to be really supportive as a counter act to the revving of your system into a triggered state. So once you've done that, once you've paused, once you've noticed the sensations of your body, once you've created some safety in the body, and you feel like you're a little bit more online in terms of, you know, your rational, thinking, reasonable brain, that's where we want to start interrogating a little what is actually happening. So this is where we bring in some of the top down questions and the things that I want you to ask.

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Again, as I said at the start, I've got a PDF that runs through all of this. So if this is feeling like you're losing track of what the steps are, fear not. There's a quick and easy download that will set it all out for you. But there's sorts of questions I want you to ask. What story am I telling myself about what is happening here? Right? What am I feeling? What am I making this situation mean about me, about them, about our relationship, about the world? What am I afraid is going to happen or has happened? Do I have enough evidence to support the stories that I'm telling myself, or am I catastrophizing? Am I filling in the blanks with worst case scenario interpretations? When else have I felt like this in my life, and is it possible that I am reacting to more than is really here in this moment? Am I reacting to someone or something from my past that's not actually in front of me right now? These sorts of questions really allow us to bring a bit more perspective in and to almost coach ourselves through. And I think that when we can do that, we create this separation within us, a really healthy separation where, rather than being totally consumed by the moment and totally consumed by our feelings, our interpretations, we start to be able to rise above and observe them. And again, just in doing that, just in creating that little bit of space between us and our interpretation, all of that can be really, really helpful in bringing the heat down in our system. Because, again, very reliably, and this is not something that's wrong with you, this is something we all do, When we're feeling triggered, we very quickly go to villain, victim, blame, how dare they, how, why do they think they can speak to me like that, I would never do that, how all of that stuff.

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Right? That tends to be what my internal dialogue sounds like when I notice that I get activated by something. And so taking the time to really deliberately slow down and second guess my own very absolute judgmental how dare they kind of story, that is very, very helpful in creating a bit more space, you know, going, what is the most generous interpretation that I can give that comment or this situation, whatever it might be, rather than what is the least generous interpretation, which is what we tend to do by default when we are activated. So going through that process and just sort of softening the edges of those stories that we tell ourselves, even injecting just a little bit of doubt or a little bit of, okay, I'm not totally 100% sure that they are out to get me and trying to hurt me, or that something terrible has happened that I maybe actually don't have all of the evidence to back up. Doing that, I think, allows our system to come down a little bit. It doesn't have to be, like, bringing it back down to 0 where you're meditating in a total zen state, but I think just bringing it down a little bit, again, these are all incremental shifts that allow us to access a bit more of our empathetic parts, our mature parts, our social brain that is going to allow us to eventually deal with this situation in a way that is not destructive to our relationships. So when you've asked all of those questions, and maybe developed a slightly more rounded view of the situation that maybe takes into account what the other person's intention might have been, even if the impact or the way that their comment landed might have really carried a sting for you. Being able to go, well, maybe they didn't mean it that way, or they probably just didn't think about it, or they forgot, or whatever it might be. Having a more generous interpretation, giving someone the benefit of the doubt, Going through all of those processes will really allow you to, come to an eventual conversation in a way that is much more balanced and much more conducive to healthy repair, if that's what needs to happen.

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And that leads me into, you know, the final piece of the puzzle here. So we've calmed the body, we've brought the thinking brain back online, and coached ourselves through whatever we've experienced. And really, I think that part is a really key piece in taking responsibility for what we are bringing to the moment rather than just blaming them and saying, well, you triggered me because you did this and you always do that, and how dare you speak to me like that. Recognizing that we are bringing so much to that moment that is leading to almost like a chemical reaction of whatever they've said or done or not said or not done, combined with our unique relational blueprint and history and experience, all of that, and it's caused this kind of explosion within us. And we are part of that equation. So recognizing, like, what am I bringing to this that has led me to interpret the situation in that way? And taking responsibility for whatever narrative or meaning making that we might be getting a bit creative with there. And then finally, what we want to do is figure out what we need. Right? Do I need to have a conversation with someone? For me now, sometimes I'll get triggered and I'll notice all of those stories and it all happens, and I pause and I tune in and I take a bit of space, take maybe a few minutes, maybe more, and I realize that it doesn't actually need a full blown repair.

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I don't need to sit down with Joel and say, hey, look. Before when you said this, it made me feel this way, and we really need to talk about it, and it's some whole big thing. Sometimes you can just let it go, and I think that, you know, part of the process of emotionally maturing is having the discernment to know what needs to be talked about, and what needs to be unpacked, and what you can just let go. And I think that, you know, sometimes when we're in the learning phase of this, we take it all very seriously and think that, like, every single little moment of rapture needs to have a full sit down conversation, where we audit what went wrong and come up with a plan to make sure it never happens again. I think that that can get really tiring. And if you've got a more avoidant leaning partner, that's probably going to be challenging for them. I know that historically that has been challenging for Joel. When we've been in phases of more ruptures and needing to have more of those repair conversations, like, several times a week, the resistance in him, I know, definitely mounts.

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It feels like he's being, you know, called into the principal's office every time I wanna talk to him. So I think that, like, part of having a secure functioning relationship is being able to let some things go, but I think ultimately you need to figure out for yourself. Can I let this go, or will letting it go mean me stewing on it and being resentful and being privately hurt and still holding onto it, but just not talking about it? So you need to figure out, like, if I'm gonna let it go, I need to let it go rather than just not talking about it and burying it. So figure out, is this okay? Like, can I just write this off as something that I had a big reaction to, but maybe that's because I didn't get a good night's sleep, or I'm being sensitive about something from my past that actually has nothing to do with my partner, or whatever else? Right? You decide for yourself if it needs to be talked about. If it does need to be talked about, I think that you will be in a much better place to do that having gone through this process. I mean, if you compare the way that you would have likely led that conversation if you had started the moment you got triggered, if you just reacted in that moment. Comparing that with the the kind of conversation you're likely to have on the other side of this process, it's like chalk and cheese. There's no comparison there because you're going to have so much more available to you by way of your own inner resources to lead that conversation in a way that is, you know, empathetic and relationally oriented and considering their perspective as well as your own, all of those things.

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So decide if you need to have that conversation. Consider what you need. Right? I think that we go into that conversation, we just blurt out, you hurt me, or I didn't like the way you said that, or something that just stops there. And I think that if we can lead that conversation by saying, hey, I noticed before that when x y zed thing happened, I felt a bit hurt, or I felt a bit rejected, or I felt a bit dismissed, and I recognize that that, you know, probably wasn't your intention. You were probably just and you can guess at what a more generous intention might have been. You were probably just distracted, or you were probably just a bit tired or whatever. Right? Something that is not, you are a villain and you're out to get me. But it had this effect on me, and I'd really appreciate it if going forward, you could do something else, right, and make a request of of how things could be different next time.

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So I think that if you can do that, you're going to be so much better placed to navigate these moments of trigger in a way that actually leads you closer, because as challenging as triggers can be, they're actually a really beautiful opportunity for insight and growth, because they point us to where there is still residue within us, where there's still unhealed stuff, where there are still sensitivities that maybe need some attention, that need some time. And when we have more capacity and we have the tools to deal with them in this emotionally mature, self caring way, we can actually create a repair opportunity there. Because if I get triggered by something and I feel dismissed and invalidated, and I'm able to identify that in a more nuanced, thoughtful way, and then I'm able to communicate that to my partner, and I'm able to not only share that that's how I felt, but request in a balanced, reasonable way that he do something differently next time, or could he be more considerate of that? And I'm able to deliver that in a way that he can actually hear it, and that he's likely to be able to take that and action it or implement it, then I've actually given myself a really beautiful gift there, because it's less likely that I am going to feel invalidated and dismissed next time. I've given my system a new experience whereby when I'm feeling invalidated and dismissed, that can be actually heard by someone, and we can create a new way going forward. So as much as no one likes getting triggered, but when you develop these tools, you can actually turn those moments of trigger into an opportunity both to deepen your relationship with yourself, to heal parts of you that may be still holding on to old pain or wounding, and also to deepen your relationship with someone else, because part of being in a relationship relationships are incredibly powerful at bringing up our triggers. They will do that. That is not in and of itself a problem. In fact, it's something that you should expect of your relationships.

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But really, the difference in a healing relationship is that you're able to take those, and really handle them with care and find a way forward. That you can create a new experience rather than reinforcing the old way which tells you that people don't care about me, or people are going to hurt me, or people always breach trust or whatever it might be. We want to recognize the old story, see when it arises, but then carry it into a new story and that's really where the healing lies. So I hope that this has been a helpful deep dive into working through triggers. As I said, don't forget to download that PDF if you would like it. It's just little one pager, so you can keep it on your phone, keep it handy, or maybe you want to print it out and stick it on your mirror or something, whatever works for you. But it's just a little go to guide that will step you through that process, so that when you are triggered, you have something to reference. And I think, again, even the the act of referring to something, even the act of of having that, allows you to steer yourself towards a new experience rather than just, you know, letting the horse bolt and carry you off into the old way, which might be really reactive and lashing out or out, or snapping back, or sulking or pouting, or whatever your go to is when you're triggered.

[00:28:54]:

Just having the intention to do things differently is a step in the right direction. So hopefully this has been helpful. As always, I'm so grateful for those of you who leave reviews, leave feedback. Also a reminder that all of these episodes are being uploaded to YouTube, so if you are someone who likes watching on YouTube, it would be super helpful for me if you could head on over there and like and subscribe as I'm trying to grow the channel there and grow the podcast on YouTube. But otherwise, thank you so much for joining me, and I look forward to seeing you again next time. Thanks, guys.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you wanna go deeper on all things attachment, love, and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a 5 star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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My 3 Favourite Quotes on Life & Love

In today's episode, I'm sharing with you some wisdom from three of my favourite writers and teachers on life, love and relationships. These quotes, from authors James Clear, Elizabeth Gilbert, and Brene Brown, have been hugely formative for me in my own journey and I hope you love them as much as I do.

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In today's episode, I'm sharing with you some wisdom from three of my favourite writers and teachers on life, love and relationships. These quotes, from authors James Clear, Elizabeth Gilbert, and Brene Brown, have been hugely formative for me in my own journey and I hope you love them as much as I do.


Life and Love: Three Powerful Quotes to Guide You

Navigating life and relationships can often feel like trying to find your way in the dark. Fortunately, the wisdom of others can illuminate our path and provide invaluable insights. Here are three powerful quotes about life and love that can inspire and guide us towards greater self-understanding and healthier relationships.

Every Action is a Vote for the Person You Wish to Become

"Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become. No single instance will transform your beliefs, but as the votes build up, so does the evidence of your new identity." – James Clear

James Clear, the author of *Atomic Habits*, captures a profound truth with this quote. It underscores the concept that meaningful change in our lives doesn't require radical shifts. Rather, it is the accumulation of small, consistent actions that shape our identity and destiny.

Imagine every action as a small vote. Each choice we make, no matter how insignificant it seems at the moment, contributes to the kind of person we are becoming. It’s a reminder of our power and agency, encouraging us to make conscious decisions aligned with our values and who we aspire to be.

For those grappling with low self-esteem or insecurity, this quote is a beacon of hope. It suggests that you don’t need to overhaul your life overnight. Instead, focus on the small, positive actions you can take daily. Over time, these actions will build up, creating evidence of a new, confident identity.

Control vs Anxiety: The Power of Surrender

"You are afraid of surrender because you don't want to lose control, but you never had control. All you had was anxiety." – Elizabeth Gilbert

Elizabeth Gilbert’s words resonate deeply, particularly for those who struggle with anxiety and control. We often grip tightly to control, believing it keeps chaos at bay. However, in reality, control is an illusion. We never truly hold dominion over most aspects of our lives; we merely have anxiety masquerading as control.

This quote invites us to re-evaluate our relationship with control and surrender. Letting go doesn't mean becoming passive or indifferent. Rather, it means recognising the limits of our control and choosing to trust the natural ebb and flow of life more. This shift can lead to greater peace and less anxiety.

Consider integrating this wisdom into daily life by practicing mindfulness and acceptance. When anxious thoughts arise, remind yourself that clinging to control is counterproductive. Release your grip, embrace the uncertainty, and find solace in the present moment. This practice can lead to a more serene and fulfilling existence.

Boundaries: Stand Your Sacred Ground

"Don't shrink, don't puff up, just stand your sacred ground." – Brené Brown

Brené Brown offers a succinct and powerful mantra for setting boundaries. Many of us struggle with boundaries, oscillating between shrinking (being too accommodating) and puffing up (being overly defensive). Brown's quote advocates for a balanced approach: standing your sacred ground.

Setting boundaries isn't about building walls or becoming rigid. It’s about honouring your own needs and values while maintaining respect and compassion for others. When you stand your sacred ground, you remain genuine and firm without aggression or submission. This balanced stance fosters healthier, more respectful relationships.

To put this into practice, begin by recognising your own needs and limits. Articulate these boundaries clearly and kindly. For example, if you need alone time after a busy day, communicate this calmly to your partner without feeling guilty or becoming defensive. This not only respects your needs but also strengthens mutual understanding and respect in your relationship.

Integrating These Quotes into Daily Life

These three quotes offer profound insights into living authentically and building healthier relationships. To integrate these principles into your daily life:

1. Reflect on Your Actions: Regularly evaluate your actions and choices. Are they aligned with the person you aspire to be? Making small, positive changes consistently can lead to significant personal growth.

2. Embrace Surrender: When you feel the urge to control, pause and breathe. Question whether control is truly possible or if it's merely perpetuating your anxiety. Shift your focus to acceptance and trust in the present moment.

3. Set Balanced Boundaries: Identify your needs and communicate them clearly. Practice standing your ground with kindness and firmness, without shrinking or puffing up. This will improve your self-respect and relationship dynamics.

By reflecting on and incorporating these timeless pieces of wisdom, you create a more intentional, balanced, and fulfilling life. Remember, profound change doesn't require grand gestures; it starts with small, deliberate steps taken with mindfulness and purpose.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. How do you relate to the idea that "every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become"? Can you think of recent actions that align or misalign with the person you want to be?

  2. Reflect on a time when you tried to exert control over a situation. Did it lead to more anxiety or resolve the situation? How might you approach a similar situation in the future with more surrender and trust?

  3. Brene Brown's quote about boundaries suggests finding a middle ground between shrinking and puffing up. In your past experiences, have you found yourself leaning towards one of these extremes? How can you better stand your sacred ground?

  4. James Clear mentions that "meaningful change does not require radical change." Can you identify small habits in your daily life that contribute positively to your self-identity? How can you cultivate more of these habits?

  5. Elizabeth Gilbert highlights the illusion of control and its connection to anxiety. Reflect on an area of your life where you feel a strong need for control. How might releasing some of that control impact your mental and emotional well-being?

  6. The concept of "we are what we practice" suggests that our daily actions shape our identity. Are there any practices or routines you currently engage in that you'd like to change to better align with your desired self?

  7. When it comes to boundaries, what does "standing your sacred ground" mean to you personally? How can you implement this concept in your interactions with others?

  8. Reflect on the idea of self-responsibility and self-respect as discussed by Steph. How do these concepts show up in your relationship with yourself and others? Are there areas where you feel a need to develop more self-responsibility or self-respect?

  9. Contemplate the relationship between control and anxiety in your life. How can you practice more surrender and trust to reduce anxiety and improve your overall sense of peace?

  10. Brene Brown's quote encourages advocating for yourself from a heart-centered place. Think of a recent situation where you felt compelled to set a boundary. How could you have approached it from a place of integrity and dignity? How did you feel in that moment, and what would you change, if anything?


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In today's episode, I am sharing with you 3 of my favorite quotes about life and relationships. So this is a slightly different episode to usual. I haven't done something like this before, but I thought it might be a nice way to borrow from the wisdom of other people, teachers who I find to be very inspirational and offer that to you as food for thought, and obviously, share with you what it is about these words and the ideas behind them that are, you know, particularly inspiring and that I find to be very profound, and how that might relate to other things that are more in the vein of what we usually talk about here, like attachment. So that's what we're gonna be talking about today. I'm excited to share these with you, and I hope that you enjoy these quotes as much as I do. Before we dive into today's episode, a quick announcement that Healing Anxious Attachment, which for anyone who is new around here is my signature program, is coming back towards the end of the month or maybe early next month.

[00:01:34]:

Haven't quite decided yet. I'm exposing how poor my planning and project management is, but there it is, transparency. Healing Anxious Attachment is very near and dear to my heart. We've had over 2,000 students in the program since I first created it about two and a half years ago, and this will be the 8th cohort of the program. So I'm really looking forward to it. I have a renewed sense of energy having been on maternity leave and coming back. I'm looking forward to launching this program again for a new round of students. And if you're at all interested in joining, do jump on the wait list, which will entitle you to early bird pricing and first access when registration opens, as I said, towards the end of the month or early next month.

[00:02:19]:

And all of that is linked in the show notes, or you can head straight to my website, stephanierigg.com, and that should be easy enough to find your way to. Okay. So let's dive into these three quotes that I love, which are, to be honest, more about life than they are about specifically relationships, but I think that it would be arbitrary to draw a distinction between those things and suggest that quotes about life and selfhood don't relate to our, you know, intimate partnerships. So the first one is from James Clear, who is probably best known as the author of Atomic Habits, which is, you know, super best selling book that you've probably seen everywhere and many of you will have read. But this quote from James Clear is, every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become. No single instance will transform your beliefs, but as the votes build up, so does the evidence of your new identity. This is one reason why meaningful change does not require radical change. Small habits can make a meaningful difference by providing evidence of a new identity.

[00:03:19]:

I love this quote. Okay. I just have to pause before I keep talking. I'm recording this in my home office, and the birds outside my window, they always give me a bit of grief. But today, they are particularly noisy in their chirping. So I apologize. It is near impossible to remove from the recording. So hopefully, it provides a nice ambiance for those listening rather than an annoyance.

[00:03:40]:

But either way, my apologies for the bird noises. Okay. Back to James Clear. So every action you take is a vote for the type of person that you want to become. I love this concept. To me, it so beautifully articulates this idea of agency and self responsibility, and that we are what we practice. Right? I love this idea that we are what we practice. So many of us have a really fixed view of ourselves.

[00:04:05]:

We say, like, oh, I'm just this type of person, or that thing's not possible for me. That can often be really restrictive and constrictive to our identity. Obviously, this whole idea of a growth mindset is kind of softening those fixed, attributes that we've slapped on ourselves that keep us really small and stagnant. So I think that shifting into this way of looking at things, that's like, with every action that I take, I'm choosing what kind of person I wanna be. I'm, like, clocking runs on the board. And over time, the sum total of all of those little choices is my identity, which is in this constant process of formation and reformation. I think this is such an encouraging idea for those of us who do struggle with low self esteem or a lack of self belief, realizing that you have so much power moment to moment to actually just choose what kind of person do I want to be, What kind of person do I want to be today? In this moment and the next one and the next one? And recognizing that as you gain momentum in those choices, you know, you're taking one step at a time, but maybe down a different path to the path that you've previously been on. And all of a sudden, you'll look back and go, wow, I've taken a 1000 steps down this new path, and I'm actually quite a way away from where I started in the best possible way.

[00:05:28]:

So, every action you take is a vote for the type of person that you want to become. It's a very powerful concept, and one that, for me, is so in alignment with all of the things that I teach and talk about around self responsibility and self respect and self worth. Okay? Reminding ourselves what we are capable of, coming back to integrity, coming back to following through and making sure there is alignment between our, you know, values and our actions rather than just talking about things and never actually following through on them. Okay. Okay. The second quote that I love is from Elizabeth Gilbert, who's also an author, and it is, you are afraid of surrender because you don't want to lose control, but you never had control. All you had was anxiety. I'm gonna say that again.

[00:06:15]:

You are afraid of surrender because you don't wanna lose control, but you never had control. All you had was anxiety. Alright? I feel like that one deserves a bit of a mic drop. When I first heard it, my therapist actually shared it with me. I was very much on point. Right? This idea that, like, oh, I can't let go of control. I can't surrender. I can't just hand my life over to the universe and say, look, I'm gonna choose to lead with trust.

[00:06:43]:

This idea of, like, I can't let go of control because all of these terrible things will happen. And reminding ourselves, like, we don't actually have control, we just have anxiety. Okay? And, like, that anxiety drives us to create an illusion of control in so many different areas of our lives. All of the ways that we grip and manipulate and try and play out every possible version of how something could happen so that we can plan how we'd respond and, you know, all of the suffering that we cause ourselves just to create this semblance of control in the face of uncertainty, when the reality is we never had control in the 1st place, we just had anxiety. And that anxiety both prompts us to seek control, but it also our attempts at creating control just perpetuate the anxiety. So I think there is immense freedom. And again, I teach this a lot in actually just recognizing how little we have control over, and letting that be a source of peace and surrender rather than fueling the anxiety. It's just it doesn't make any sense to continually be at war with what is, And the reality is that we don't have control over the vast majority of things that are going on in the world, even that happening in our lives.

[00:08:00]:

You know, our sphere of control is relatively limited compared to all of the things that we try to exert control over. So making peace with that, recognizing what your relationship to control is, and asking, do I actually have control, or do I just have anxiety? And my bet would be that it's the latter, right? We just have anxiety, not control. So in light of that, maybe we might try and take more steps towards surrender, and peace, and trust in, you know, the ebb and flow of life, recognizing that it doesn't really matter either way, because even if we try to control, it's not going to work. So maybe if those attempts at control are just causing us stress and anxiety, without having any efficacy attached to them, letting go might provide an alternative way of being that we could explore and play with. Okay. Now the 3rd quote that I love is from Brene Brown, and this quote is around boundaries. And again, if you've been in any of my programs, I think I mentioned this quote in my boundaries masterclass. It is, don't shrink, don't puff up, just stand your sacred ground.

[00:09:13]:

Okay? Now, I'll say that one again. Don't shrink, don't puff up, just stand your sacred ground. So it's this idea of when we talk about boundaries, most of us, by default, will either shrink, get very small, or we puff up. We have this bravado or this aggression, and I've talked many times about that pendulum swing that oftentimes we go from having no boundaries to having very dictatorial boundaries where we wanna tell everyone what they can and can't do, and how dare you, and you're violating my boundaries, and we don't really know how to find ourselves to a moderate place, a middle ground, a balanced approach to boundaries that actually is conducive to healthy relationships. Because the puffing up and the shrinking both exist at opposite ends of the spectrum. It's diffuse boundaries or it's rigidity, and neither of those tend to yield what we're wanting, which is you know, I talked about this in a recent episode around boundaries. We want to be able to stay connected to self and connected to other, and boundaries are a really powerful tool to allow us to do that, to facilitate that, because it essentially communicates, here's what I need in order to feel safe while being connected to you. Right? Now, this idea of just stand your sacred ground, I think there's something really powerful and poignant in those words.

[00:10:31]:

It's very evocative, at least for me. You know, firm, feet planted, really heart centered. I don't need to shrink. I don't need to make myself smaller to gain your approval, or to hold on to a relationship, or whatever it might be. I can stand firmly planted in my truth, in my dignity, in my integrity. I can advocate for myself from that place, trusting that whatever flows from that is the right thing. Because how could being grounded in my integrity lead to the wrong outcome, whatever the wrong outcome might be? Again, I think we get so tied up in the right outcome is the one that I want. I think this loops back to our desire to control everything, other people, and the world around us.

[00:11:18]:

So I think that learning to orient ourselves back to center, go, okay, how can I advocate for myself in this moment? What do I need to say? Can I say it from my heart? Can I say it vulnerably, but with care and kindness? And then whatever flows as a result of that, even if the other person blows up and gets really defensive, or even, God forbid, a relationship ends as a result of it. What else could you have done? Right? What else could you have done? You spoke from a true, honest, integral, heart centered place, And that that means that you save yourself so much possibility of regret because, you know, you didn't blow up at them, you didn't bite your tongue, you stood your sacred ground. And I think that's an incredibly empowering thing that is so conducive to inner peace, and, again, really affords us more capacity for that surrender that we talked about in the previous quote around trust and control. So those are my 3 quotes that I wanted to share with you. I hope that you got something out of those. I hope that you like them, love them as much as I do, and that they've given you something to reflect on today as you go about your day, move about the world. That the wisdom that I've borrowed and shared from those wonderful teachers has given you what you need today, whatever that looks like for you. So thank you so much for joining me.

[00:12:44]:

A reminder again, if you want to be part of Healing Anxious Attachment, the upcoming cohort, jump on the wait list. There's obviously no obligation around the wait list. It just does get you that early bird pricing, which is only available to folks on the wait list. Okay. That's all from me, guys. Thank you so much for joining me, and I will see you again next time.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you wanna go deeper on all things attachment, love, and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a 5 star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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A Hard Truth About Setting Boundaries

In today's episode, we're talking about boundaries. Boundary setting is one of those areas that we hear about so much in the personal development world, and yet bridging the gap between theory and practice remains a challenge for most of the folks that I work with (particularly those with an anxious attachment style). 

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In today's episode, we're talking about boundaries. Boundary setting is one of those areas that we hear about so much in the personal development world, and yet bridging the gap between theory and practice remains a challenge for most of the folks that I work with (particularly those with an anxious attachment style). 

We cover:

  • Why boundary setting is so hard for people with insecure attachment patterns

  • How anxious and avoidant attachment styles differ in boundary setting

  • The truth about boundaries in healthy relationships

  • How to navigate a fear that setting boundaries will lead to the relationship falling apart


A Hard Truth About Setting Boundaries

Boundaries are essential for any healthy relationship. They serve as markers that define where one person ends, and another begins, allowing for mutual respect and understanding. However, setting and upholding boundaries can be particularly challenging, especially for those with insecure attachment patterns. Let's explore why this is the case and uncover some hard truths about the process.

The Struggle with Boundaries

Many people find boundaries difficult to both set and maintain. This is often because they did not have healthy boundaries modelled during their formative years. Growing up without a clear blueprint of what boundaries look like, individuals may find themselves in adulthood either unable to establish personal limits or overly rigid in their approach.

If boundaries feel awkward or unnatural, it may be due to a lack of practice and understanding. Remember, enforcing boundaries isn’t about rigidly adhering to a list of rules but about knowing and communicating what feels acceptable and safe.

The Impact of Attachment Styles

Different attachment styles experience boundary-setting in diverse ways. For those with anxious attachment, the idea of setting a boundary can elicit fear. There's an underlying anxiety that enforcing a limit may lead to a loss of connection. This fear often leads to self-sacrifice, where personal discomfort is ignored to keep the peace and maintain the relationship.

Conversely, individuals with avoidant attachment may put up very strict, ironclad walls to protect themselves from perceived enmeshment and loss of self. These walls can be so rigid that they prevent genuine intimacy and connection. Healthy boundaries shouldn’t be so flexible that they’re non-existent, nor should they be so rigid they become barriers to intimacy.

Misconceptions and Hard Truths

A common misconception is to view rigid boundaries as a sign of security and confidence. In reality, boundaries formed out of fear and a need for self-protection do not equate to healthy self-assurance. True security in boundaries incorporates a balance, allowing for both personal space and connection without fear.

One hard truth about boundaries is that they often come with a cost. Particularly for the anxiously attached, the fear of not getting what one desires after setting a boundary can be a significant deterrent. The possibility of experiencing a loss of connection can make it tempting to forgo boundaries altogether. However, enduring discomfort and self-sacrifice for the sake of connection leads to anxiety and internal tension.

Navigating the Tension Between Self and Other

An important realisation is that true, healthy relationships do not ask one to choose between self-respect and connection with others. If advocating for oneself often results in the withdrawal of affection or connection, it serves as a warning sign. While this doesn’t necessarily mean the relationship is doomed, it indicates that changes are needed to achieve a secure, emotionally safe relationship.

It’s essential to find a balance between advocating for personal needs and maintaining flexibility and understanding toward the other person. This isn’t about ultimatums but about knowing what non-negotiables are crucial for one’s sense of safety and wellbeing.

The Courage to Hold Firm

When setting a boundary, it’s crucial to decide whether the boundary matters enough that being in a relationship where it is not respected is unacceptable. This does not mean becoming rigid in every small request, but it means recognising and holding firm on what is fundamentally important.

It’s essential to follow through on communicated boundaries. Declaring a boundary without enforcing it weakens its impact and can lead to self-abandonment for the sake of preserving the relationship. True growth often requires courage and a commitment to one’s self-respect and emotional safety.

The Path to Authentic Connection

Understanding that relinquishing personal boundaries to maintain a semblance of connection is detrimental is liberating. Constantly sacrificing personal comfort and authenticity for the sake of keeping someone close leads to anxiety and insecurity.

Healthy relationships respect and value boundaries, fostering an environment where open communication and mutual respect thrive. Each step in setting and upholding boundaries builds a foundation for authentic, secure connections that honour both personal needs and mutual respect.

In summary, setting and upholding boundaries, particularly within the context of attachment styles, involves reflection, courage, and continuous practice. While it may initially seem daunting, the process ultimately leads to healthier, more fulfilling relationships marked by mutual respect and genuine connection.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. Do you find it challenging to set boundaries in your relationships? What fears or anxieties come up for you when you think about setting boundaries?

  2. Reflect on a time when you felt your boundaries were not respected. How did that experience impact your sense of safety and connection within the relationship?

  3. How do you currently navigate the tension between maintaining a connection to others and staying true to your own needs and feelings?

  4. Do you recognise a pattern of abandoning your own needs in order to keep the peace or maintain a relationship? How has this impacted your emotional well-being over time?

  5. When you think about setting a boundary, do you worry about potential consequences, such as the loss of the relationship? How do these worries influence your actions?

  6. Consider the types of boundaries you tend to have. Are they more diffuse and porous, or rigid and uncompromising? What are the effects of these boundary styles on your relationships?

  7. Do you find yourself negotiating with your own comfort levels and needs in order to avoid conflict? How might this affect your long-term happiness and sense of self?

  8. Is there a specific boundary that you know needs to be set in your life right now? What is stopping you from setting and upholding this boundary?

  9. How might you start to practice better boundaries in small, manageable ways within your existing relationships? What steps can you take today to move towards healthier boundaries?

  10. Reflect on the idea that a healthy relationship should not require you to choose between connection to self and connection to other. How has this perspective shifted your understanding of your relationships?


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[00:00:29]:

In today's episode, we're talking all about boundaries, and specifically why you might struggle to set, uphold, and be on the receiving end of boundaries, particularly in your intimate relationships. So, boundaries are one of those areas that I think most of us will be relatively well acquainted with, at least on a surface level, if you spend any time in the personal development space. It's pretty hard to scroll through Instagram, at least if your algorithm looks anything like mine, and not encounter some sort of content around boundaries. And yet I know from speaking to so many people in my community, in my programs, that boundaries continue to be really challenging. And it's something that a lot of people, I think, have a theoretical grasp of, but, you know, the practical implementation, the doing piece, still feels really challenging. And I think oftentimes there is that gap between theory and practice in so much of this work, which is why, you know, so much of the magic is in taking those real life steps rather than just trying to read or listen our way to growth.

[00:01:36]:

So in today's episode, I'm going to be sharing a little bit on why boundaries feel hard for so many of us, particularly those of us with insecure attachment patterns at both ends of the spectrum. So despite what you may think, which is that boundaries are, you know, hard for anxiously attached people, but not so much for avoidant people, I would push back on that and say that I think boundaries are a challenge for both anxious and avoidant leaning people, although they can certainly look different. And I suppose also share some hard truths about boundaries because I think there are many misconceptions when it comes to boundaries, and sometimes we have to reckon with the reality that boundaries will come at a cost. And I think that's, you know, the great fear that underpins boundary setting for so many of us, particularly those of us with more anxious patterns, is that, you know, we'll set the boundary, and then we won't get what we want, so to speak. And then we'll have to deal with the consequences, which might be a loss of connection or something else that we desperately want to avoid. So talking through some of those pain points, I suppose, and validating how hard it is and why it feels so hard, but while also serving up some hard truths. So that's what we're gonna be talking about today. Before I dive into that, I just wanted to share, I moments before hitting the record button, I thought I might offer a special deal on my Better Boundaries masterclass.

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So you can go on to my website, and the masterclass is usually $88. I'm going to put it on sale for $30. You won't need a discount code or anything. I'm just going to modify the price at the checkout. So if you are interested in going a little deeper on the topic of boundaries and you wanna save, and we do the math off the cuff here, over 60% on on the cost of that masterclass, head to my website or click the link in the show notes, to grab the Better Boundaries Masterclass for just $30. Okay. So let's talk about why boundaries are hard. I think for most of us, we did not grow up with good boundaries.

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We did not have that modeled for us. We did not have a blueprint of what healthy boundaries look like. And so we tend to progress through to adulthood without really knowing what boundaries look or feel like. And that tends to go one of 2 ways. Either we are boundaryless, we have very porous or diffuse boundaries in that, you know, we let anyone in as much as they want. We have no sense of demarcation of what is okay for us, what we're comfortable with, And likewise, we are not terribly good at respecting or perceiving other people's boundaries, and so we want to be as much in their world as we possibly can, this idea of enmeshment. The other version of things, and this tends to align more with avoidant attachment patterns, is we're maybe afraid of enmeshment. Maybe that's been part of our family system or other relational experiences that we've had, And so we fear engulfment.

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We fear loss of self. And so we put up these ironclad walls to keep people at bay. And, you know, both of these versions of unhealthy boundaries, you know, the very diffuse, porous kind or the very rigid, uncompromising kind, Neither of those are healthy. And, you know, I'll just say as a side note, I think for people with more anxious attachment patterns, they can sometimes see their avoidant partner's very rigid boundaries, as, you know, an expression of security. Like, wow, there's a confident look at their boundaries. But you know, a very black and white boundary is not necessarily what we're going for here. That's not a sign of, you know, security if it's coming from this fear driven place of self protection at all costs. What we're really aiming for when we talk about healthy boundaries is something in the middle, as is so often the case.

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And people with a secure attachment tend to be pretty naturally good at this. They can advocate for themselves in, you know, what works for them, what doesn't, what they need, but they don't forget that there's someone else in that equation. And so there's this level of flexibility and an openness to maybe negotiate or understand another perspective rather than just kind of clamping down and saying, you know, it's my way or the highway laying down the law, or otherwise kind of collapsing altogether. So as you can see in these patterns, and particularly for more anxious people, what often emerges is this tension between connection to other and connection to myself. And if we think of a healthy boundary as being that feels so foreign and why it feels so hard. Because if you have more anxious attachment patterns, probably all you've ever really known is sacrificing connection to self in the interest of maintaining connection to other. We know that that's very much at the heart of anxious attachment is, so long as I'm connected to you, that's really all I need in order to feel safe, in order to feel happy, in order to feel valuable and worthy. And so I will do whatever I need to do.

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I will contort myself. I will swallow my words. I will override my discomfort with something in order to maintain the connection with you, even if that connection starts to look and feel like something that isn't really what I truly want or what I'm truly comfortable with, because I have this framework of, like, connection is better than no connection, no matter what that connection looks or feels like. So just really validating that if you have this more anxious attachment pattern, you may struggle to set boundaries to even think about doing it, because you have so much anxiety that the other person's not going to meet you in the boundary and be receptive to it, and that they're just gonna say, well, if that's your boundary, I'm not interested. I'm gonna walk away. And when the the cost feels so high, right, when you feel like the the consequence of setting your boundary could be the loss of the relationship, All of a sudden, the thing that you're wanting to set the boundary about starts to pale by comparison. You start to negotiate with yourself and go, well, do I really care that much about this thing that you know, has been bothering me? But if it means that I'm gonna lose the relationship, maybe I'll just stay quiet about it. Maybe I'll just sweep it under the rug.

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Maybe I'll just kind of suck it up and deal with it myself, because it's not that big a deal that it would be worth losing the relationship over. Right? That's often the internal dialogue. Now, that obviously begs the question of, like, what do we do with that? What do we do with this tension between connection to self and connection to other? And I think that a really important thing to understand, as I sort of alluded to, is that healthy relationships don't ask you to choose one of those two things. Right? If you are being made to choose between what feels safe to you, which is really what we're trying to lay down with the self advocacy of setting a healthy boundary. And you're feeling like to advocate for yourself in that way will likely lead to the withdrawal of the connection, whether through some sort of punitive measure like stonewalling or, you know, someone just withdrawing on you and going quiet, or getting very defensive, shutting down, or leaving the relationship altogether. But this sense of, If I step forward and take up space and advocate for myself, there's going to be some sort of adverse consequence in terms of our connection, then that is kind of I hesitate to use the term red flag. If you've listened for a long time, you know I don't tend to use that kind of language, but it is a bit of a warning sign that there are other things that are not, you know, working as they should in terms of the emotional safety of the relationship. Now does that mean that the relationship is doomed? No.

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A lot of us will not have, like, really wonderful emotional safety and security as a baseline if we're coming to a relationship with insecure attachment patterns. That's the whole point of this work, is that we need to learn and practice those things. But it is a sign that something needs to shift if you are wanting to build a secure relationship, because continuing with the status quo where you are afraid to advocate for what you need in order to feel safe and loved and secure, if you're afraid to speak those things and to stand firm on them because you're worried that you're going to be punished in some way with the withdrawal of love and connection, it's going to be very hard to ever feel emotionally safe, when that dynamic is present. So really recognising that this stuff is important, and that bargaining with yourself on, is this really worth losing the relationship over? Am I asking for too much? Should I just let it go and make myself be comfortable with something that I'm not comfortable with? I don't think that that path is going to lead you to the peace that you seek or the connection that you seek. It's likely to lead you to more anxiety and more internal tension, because the truth of what you are comfortable or not comfortable with, you know, it remains. And it's just you trying to silence that in the interest of holding onto, you some semblance of connection or relationship with someone, even if it's not on the terms or in the way that you truly desire. So all of that to say, and this is kind of where the hard truth comes in, there's no way and I I'll often get questions from people in the vein of how can I make sure that speaking my boundary and, you know, standing firm, enacting my boundary, it's probably more important than speaking? And I think oftentimes we speak it and then we don't follow through in our actions. We kind of declare this big boundary.

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And then if we get any pushback, we quickly try and backpedal and chip away at our boundary again, to hold onto that connection. But when setting a boundary in a relationship, you need to decide for yourself whether that boundary matters enough, that you are not willing to be in a relationship where that boundary is not respected. Okay? Now, of course, we're not talking about, like, any and every little request or boundary that we might speak to in a relationship. I'm not encouraging you to be, you know, really rigid and absolute about this. But if there are big things, things that you know are really fundamental and important to you, then you need to let them be fundamental and important to you. You need to let them be nonnegotiable, if that's what they truly are in your heart. And you need to get honest with yourself about the fact that you're not willing to be in a relationship where those things are not respected. And if that means that in communicating your boundary to someone about, you know, I am not willing to go on like this, here is what I need.

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Here is what I am going to do if this thing happens again. You need to be willing to follow through on that. You need to be committed enough to yourself that you're gonna follow through on that rather than being more committed to holding onto the connection and letting go of abandoning yourself, for the sake of of just holding on. I know that this is incredibly challenging. I have struggled with it my whole life, and it's not something that you're going to be able to switch overnight, but that really is the work. That is the crux of the challenge, particularly for more anxious folks around boundary setting, is that you need to recalibrate this whole conception of connection to other, connection to self, and recognise that if a connection with someone else requires that you let go of your connection to self, that you abandon yourself, that you lie to yourself, that is not the relationship that is going to bring you peace, that is going to bring you safety, that is going to bring you security. And, you know, there is grief and there is liberation in recognising that. So I hope that that has given you something to think about.

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I know that it's really tough. I know that you can probably hear this a 100 times. And if you're in that situation where you feel like things are on the brink and so you're really scared of saying the thing that needs to be said for fear of those consequences, I I totally understand, and I'm there with you in spirit and sending you so much love. This is really where your courage is required, and sometimes growth does really ask that we get very honest with what we want, what we need, who we are, really. What is authenticity to me in a relationship, and what am I willing to sacrifice just for the sake of holding on? And is it really worth what it's costing me, to hold on to someone when things that are fundamental to my sense of safety and my sense of self are not being respected in this relationship. So sending so much love, particularly to anyone who's struggling with this at the moment. It's really big work, but, you know, just taking it one day at a time, one step at a time, and I'm, as I said, there with you in spirit.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you wanna go deeper on all things attachment, love, and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a 5 star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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3 Life Lessons I Wish I'd Learned Sooner

In today's episode, I'm sharing three life lessons that I wish I'd learned sooner. These are around the theme of self-awareness, personal responsibility and consciously creating the life that we want for ourselves.

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In today's episode, I'm sharing three life lessons that I wish I'd learned sooner. These are around the theme of self-awareness, personal responsibility and consciously creating the life that we want for ourselves.

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3 Life Lessons That Cultivate Self-Worth and Happiness

The journey to self-worth and happiness is neither quick nor easy. Significant life lessons often come from years of growth, reflection, and sometimes even hardship. Yet, certain insights can be transformative and invaluable when learnt earlier in life. Here are three important life lessons that revolve around self-worth, responsibility, and respect, which, when embraced, can significantly improve your relationship with yourself and others.

You Cannot Outrun Yourself

It's tempting to believe that changing external circumstances will resolve inner conflicts. Whether it's leaving a job, ending a relationship, or moving to a new city, it's easy to convince oneself that a change in scenery is the answer. However, the reality is that internal issues follow you wherever you go. The patterns and core beliefs you hold about yourself are deeply ingrained and will reappear in new situations unless they're addressed.

Understanding this can be empowering. It shifts the focus from external to internal, encouraging you to face and resolve the root causes of your unrest. By addressing core beliefs and undertaking the courageous work of healing, you can break free from recurring negative patterns. This internal work is essential for personal growth and building a fulfilling, stable life.

Inaction is a Choice for More of the Same

Choosing not to make necessary life changes can create an illusion of passivity, as if you're simply staying still. In reality, life is always in motion, and not taking action towards positive changes means you are subconsciously choosing to stay on the same path. This path will lead to more of what you currently experience, be it dissatisfaction, stress, or unfulfilment.

Reframe this passive stance by recognising that every day, through your actions and inactions, you're shaping your future. Evaluating your daily choices and habits can illuminate where you're inadvertently choosing more of the same. This awareness fosters a sense of responsibility and agency, propelling you towards the necessary changes that align with the life you wish to lead.

Self-Respect Must be Earned

Self-respect is not something granted externally; it is earned through the alignment of actions and values. Earning self-respect involves knowing your values and consistently acting in accordance with them. When your behaviour mirrors your values, integrity and self-respect naturally follow.

Reflect on moments where you've felt shame or discomfort after certain actions. Such feelings often indicate a misalignment between your behaviour and your values. While perfection is unattainable, diligently striving to close this gap leads to a more authentic and fulfilling relationship with yourself. Achieving self-respect requires effort and honesty, but it's a gratifying journey that fortifies your self-esteem and personal integrity.

Embrace Self-Responsibility for Lasting Change

Central to these life lessons is the concept of self-responsibility. Only by fully embracing the responsibility for your thoughts, actions, and their consequences can you enact meaningful and lasting change. Recognising that you are the architect of your life brings a powerful sense of agency.

Taking responsibility might be daunting, but it is the cornerstone of personal development. Every decision, no matter how small, is a step toward crafting the life you desire. By actively choosing actions that align with your values and desired outcomes, you gradually build a fulfilling and respectful relationship with yourself.

Cultivate Self-Worth and Thrive

These life lessons—acknowledging that you cannot outrun yourself, understanding that inaction is a choice for more of the same, and recognising that self-respect must be earned—are fundamental for personal growth. They guide you towards a deeper understanding of yourself and encourage a proactive approach to life's challenges.

Embracing these lessons fosters a sense of self-worth and helps cultivate healthier relationships with others. They inspire you to confront internal issues, take meaningful actions, and align your behaviour with your values. As you internalise these lessons, you'll find that your relationship with yourself transforms, paving the way for a more content and fulfilling life.

By understanding and applying these principles, you embark on a journey to greater self-awareness, responsibility, and respect. This journey, while challenging, holds the promise of deep personal satisfaction and authentic happiness. Embrace these lessons and watch as they enrich your life, helping you to overcome insecurity and build thriving, healthy relationships.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. Have you ever found yourself repeating the same relationship patterns despite changing partners or circumstances? What does this tell you about the internal work that might still be needed?

  2. Reflect on a situation where you avoided making a necessary change. How did holding back affect your overall sense of fulfilment and self-respect?

  3. Evaluate your current level of self-respect. Are your day-to-day actions aligned with your core values? Where do you see room for alignment and improvement?

  4. Think back to a time when you acted out of alignment with your values. How did this impact your sense of self-worth and self-respect?

  5. How do you currently handle feelings of discomfort or shame? Do you avoid facing them, or do you address the underlying causes?

  6. In what ways do you find yourself blaming external circumstances for your unhappiness rather than taking self-responsibility? What changes could you make to shift this dynamic?

  7. What beliefs or patterns from your past do you find most challenging to overcome? How can you start to reprogram these beliefs to create healthier relationships?

  8. Reflect on an area in your life where you feel stuck. What small, actionable steps can you take today to start moving in a new direction?

  9. How do you define self-respect for yourself? What are tangible actions you can take to cultivate it daily?

  10. Visualise the kind of life and relationships you want. What actions and changes do you need to take now to start moving towards that vision?

  11. These questions and prompts encourage self-reflection and action in alignment with the core themes of self-worth, self-respect, and self-responsibility discussed in the episode.


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Episode Transcript

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In today's episode, I'm sharing 3 pieces of advice or three life lessons that I wish I had learned sooner in life. Now, while I'm grateful to be relatively young and having learned these lessons, at least, you know, I think we're always learning and relearning lessons, but I feel like I've got a a reasonable grip on the 3 that I'm gonna share with you today. And while I'm grateful to have learned them relatively early on in life, I still wish I'd learned them sooner, and I think that I spent a lot of years in my late teens and early twenties flailing a little bit in terms of my relationship with myself and some of my relationships with others on account of not really having a grasp of these lessons. So these are all around the themes of self worth, self respect, self responsibility. And I think they're absolutely integral no matter where you sit on the attachment spectrum, no matter your age or situation or background. These are really foundational to any kind of positive relationship with self.

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So I'm looking forward to sharing these with you today. Before I dive into that, this is the final call to join the Secure Self Challenge, which, for those who are not familiar, is my 28 day challenge all about building self worth. We kick off next Monday, so about 5 days from when this will go live. And I would love to have you there. It's really short and sweet. It's very doable. It's kind of action oriented rather than really heavy theory and long lessons and lots of stuff to do. There's a strong community focus, so the community is already open.

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So if you were to sign up today, you would get an invite to the community where, you know, everyone is already sharing and connecting and getting to know each other. That's a space where you can also ask me questions and get feedback, and we've got a live call next week. So it's really great value. It's one of my most affordable actually, it is my most affordable live program, and I would absolutely love for you to be part of it. So if you're at all interested, definitely check it out. It's in the show notes. It's on my website, stephanierigg.com, and I would love to see you there. Okay.

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So let's dive into this conversation around 3 life lessons that I wish I'd learned sooner. Okay. The first one is you cannot outrun yourself, so wherever you go, there you are. I think this is so important because it's really easy for us to think that when we're in an unsatisfactory situation, relationship, job, whatever it might be, if you're feeling a bit stuck in life, particularly where there's a theme where it's kind of a recurring pattern and you've been there before, you've felt that way before, it's so easy to convince ourselves that changing the circumstances, leaving the relationship, or leaving the job, whatever, that doing that kind of outer work will resolve whatever inner conflict we're experiencing. And that's not to say that making environmental changes can't be part of that shift, that making healthier choices in terms of the relationships we're in or changing jobs if we're in a really toxic work environment, all of those things can be part of self growth. But if we're not actually addressing the root cause of how we got to where we are and what is it within us that has landed us in that pattern again and again, then there is every chance that you will find yourself in some version of that the next time around. It's it's very rare that without the self awareness and the intentional kind of reprogramming of those wounded parts of us, we're incredibly adept at recreating circumstances that bring us into contact with those things, that reaffirm our negative core beliefs about ourselves and that reflects those things back at us. So if you have a core belief that you are unworthy of being in a healthy relationship, there is every chance that you are going to subconsciously seek out partners who reinforce that belief and who leave you feeling like you are not worthy of a good relationship, that you have to prove yourself, that you have to earn love, that you are going to be rejected or abandoned or whatever in favor of someone else who is better than you.

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All of these things follow us. Those are unresolved things that really need our attention, and and we keep turning our back on these parts of us rather than doing the really scary but courageous work of actually facing it and opening the can of worms and going, okay, how did I get here? What is it within me? What happened in my past? What shaped me in this way so that I developed with these beliefs that have gotten me to this circumstance again and again and again. Now, it's not comfortable work, and that's why it's so easy to avoid, maybe to blame others or just to keep changing those external circumstances and running away from the problem, but when the problem is within us, there is no running away, there is no outrunning of you. So the first lesson that I wish I had learned earlier is wherever you go, there you are. Your patterns are coming with you unless and until you do the work to resolve them and to really learn a new way of being. Okay. The second one that I want to share with you is by not changing, by not making changes that you know you need to make, you are choosing more of the same. So what do I mean by this? I think that when we are not taking action towards a big life change, or maybe a little life change, right, it could be just habit change, and this isn't just about relationships, this could be something like having healthier habits around, like, diet and exercise.

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It could be anything. But I think we tell ourselves that by not making the changes that we know we need to make, we're doing nothing. We're staying still. We're staying stuck. But really, we're always in forward motion. Okay? So you're either in forward motion down the path that is leading you to more of what you want, being the kind of life you want, the kind of feelings you want to have about yourself, about others, about the world, fulfillment, joy, peace, self respect, all of those things, you're either walking down that path or you are walking down the path that is leading you to more of what you do not want. So that might be more of the same. But know that in not making the changes and not taking action towards those changes, you are choosing more of the same.

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So just reframing it from a passive to an active thing, I think, really wakes us up a bit to the self responsibility involved in that of, oh, okay. I'm not just staying still. It's not that I'm stagnant and passively existing in my life. Every day that I wake up and I just go through the motions of reenacting all of my habituated patterns, all of my conditioned ways of being, I make the choices that I know are not in service of how I want to live my life and the kind of life that I want. In doing those things, I am actively choosing more of the more of what is keeping me feeling unhappy, unfulfilled, anxious, stressed, burnt out, whatever it might be. You're choosing that by not making the changes that you know you need to make. So that is something that I absolutely wish I had learned sooner because I think that that would have jolted me a little into a bit more self responsibility, a bit more agency, having a bit of a wake up call of, like, this is on you. You can keep, like, living your life in this autopilot mode and making all of those changes, like, a down the track thing, you know, oh, I'll do that, like, next year or later when I have more time, when I can be bothered, or when things get really bad, whatever it might be.

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That's not just, like, saving it for later. That's choosing more of the same. It is walking further and further down the path that you don't want to be walking down. So be aware of that. Really audit. Where am I choosing a life that I don't want? And am I contributing every day through my actions, through my tendencies, through my habits, to the formation of a life that is not fulfilling to me? And what do I need to change today in order to change direction towards something that actually sounds good to me and sounds appealing to me in terms of the life that I want to be living. Okay. The third lesson that I wish I had learned earlier is that self respect is something that you have to earn.

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Now, I've spoken before on the podcast about self respect. I think that self respect is so, so important. I am far more interested in cultivating self respect than self love, not because I think there's anything wrong with self love, but I just think self respect is much more powerful in a really strong, authentic relationship with self. And for me, self respect is all about value alignment. So, am I showing up in a way that reflects my values? Do I know who I am? Am I comfortable with who I am? And do I act from that place? Or is there this big incongruence, this big gap between the kind of person I say I want to be and the way that I'm showing up? And I think it's a really good telltale sign that there is that gap if you often feel like shame, discomfort, embarrassment, humiliation about the way that you've acted after the fact. So if you've done something that feels really icky and out of alignment and you don't feel good about it, that's a good sign of, like, what is that telling me? Where have I not met my own standards for the kind of person that I want to be? And It's not about perfectionism, it's not about holding ourselves to an impossibly high standard of never making a mistake, but I think we all know when we're out of integrity, and self respect is just such an important thing to earn, and the good news is that you can earn it through the choices that you make and the actions that you take. You might notice that in each of these lessons that I'm sharing with you, there's a strong focus on actions and agency and self responsibility because I think that those things are really what is within our control. And so much of personal development advice is a bit abstract and really suffers from that.

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I think it's like, you know, stop comparing yourself to other people, and be kind to yourself, and be loving, and whatever. Those things can just feel so out of reach if all of that stuff is muscle memory, second nature, that's just so deep in your programming that you don't really know where to start. The actions that you take on a day to day basis are much more concrete, and they're kind of easier to shine a light on and easier to see where the choice is. So we can go, oh, there's actually capacity for me to start building out a new branch from the tree here. There's actually capacity for me to choose a new way with this action, and then the action after that, and then the action after that, and really just start that process of compounding that allows us to build out a new relationship with ourselves and a new way of being. So self respect is not something that is just going to magically appear in your life. It's not something that you can think into being. You really do have to earn it, and I think that that is a good thing.

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This is not like saying you need to earn someone else's love or earn someone's approval, which I think generally carries a negative connotation. When I say self respect needs to be earned, I think that is really calling you forth into a level of self responsibility and accountability in your relationship with yourself. And to the extent that you feel you're lacking self respect, there might be a reason for it. Okay? And that's kind of a hard truth that a lot of us maybe shy away from, but I think it's an important one. And certainly for me, And I've shared this before at the times in my life when I really lacked self respect. When I look back on it now, I think that that was exactly as it should have been because I wasn't behaving in a way that garnered self respect. I really wasn't, and I think that the discomfort that I felt with that, the lack of integrity, was a really important alarm bell that was pointing me towards where my work was. And I am so fortunate, and I'm so relationship with myself, because I can really comfortably say now that I do have that internal relationship of self respect, and that's so freeing.

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It contributes so much to a really embodied sense of self esteem. It's really being able to hand on heart say I'm comfortable with who I am, so that's been a huge one for me, and it's why I'm so bullish on self respect relative to other things like self love. So those were 3 life lessons that I wish I'd learned sooner. Just to recap quickly, it's wherever you go, there you are. You cannot outrun your patterns. They're coming with you until you, turn around and face them and do that courageous work of really tending to the parts of you that need your attention. The second one was by not making the changes that you know you need to make, you are actively choosing more of the same. So it's not just do nothing or make a change, it's continue walking down the path that I don't want to be walking down or walk down a different path.

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Okay? So really shifting into more of an active role there in the constant creation of whatever your life is. And the third one is that self respect is earned. So you need to actively do the work through your day to day actions of bringing your values and your choices, your behaviors into alignment so that you have that real sense of integrity. I really hope that that's been helpful. If you enjoyed today's episode, I really do encourage you to sign up to the Secure Self Challenge. This is very much in keeping with what we talk about there and the lessons that we're putting into practice over the 28 days of the challenge. So I would absolutely love to see you there if this is up your alley, as it is mine. But otherwise, thank you so much for joining me, and I look forward to seeing you again next week. Thanks, guys.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you wanna go deeper on all things attachment, love, and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a 5 star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

Keywords from Podcast Episode

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Reflections on Self-Trust, Control & Surrender

In today's episode, I'm sharing some reflections from my recent experience of pregnancy and birth on self-trust, control and surrender. These are themes that most folks with insecure attachment patterns struggle with, and learning to trust in your capacity to navigate life's ups and downs with confidence and agency is a huge step on the path to building secure attachment.

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In today's episode, I'm sharing some reflections from my recent experience of pregnancy and birth on self-trust, control and surrender. These are themes that most folks with insecure attachment patterns struggle with, and learning to trust in your capacity to navigate life's ups and downs with confidence and agency is a huge step on the path to building secure attachment. 

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Navigating Life Through Self-Trust, Control, and Surrender

In the intricate dance of life, particularly during transformative phases like pregnancy or major life changes, the concepts of self-trust, control, and surrender become profoundly resonant. Each of these elements plays a unique role in how we manage our internal landscapes and external relationships. Understanding and embracing these aspects can lead to a more harmonious and fulfilled existence.

The Essence of Self-Trust

Self-trust is foundational in our journey towards self-awareness and self-compassion. It acts as the inner compass that guides us through life's uncertainties. When we trust ourselves, we believe in our ability to confront and overcome challenges, to make decisions that align with our core values, and to maintain our path even when external circumstances attempt to swerve us off course.

Developing self-trust is not about achieving perfection or eliminating doubt entirely; rather, it's about building a reliable relationship with oneself. It instils a confidence that allows us to navigate fear, stress, and anxiety more effectively. This is especially crucial for those with insecure attachment styles, where fear of abandonment or engulfment can often dictate reactive patterns in relationships.

The Illusion of Control

Control is a seductive illusion that promises safety but often leads to rigidity and fear. It thrives on the misconception that we can safeguard ourselves against all potential harm by managing every variable. However, this is merely a coping mechanism used to comfort anxious minds.

In reality, control can trap us in cycles of behaviour that keep us from genuinely connecting with others or fully engaging with life. Whether it's micromanaging a partner or meticulously planning every aspect of one’s daily routine, over-reliance on control can stifle the spontaneity and authenticity needed for vibrant relationships.

The Power of Surrender

On the flip side of control is surrender, a concept that many might find intimidating. Surrender does not entail giving up or admitting defeat; rather, it involves acknowledging that we are not the omnipotent directors of our lives. It means accepting the natural flow of life, embracing its unpredictability, and being open to outcomes beyond our meticulous plans.

Surrender requires a deep level of trust—not just in oneself, but also in the process of life. It invites vulnerability, allowing ourselves to experience life in its full depth, without the armour of absolute control. In relationships, surrender might look like releasing the need to fix or change the other person, instead accepting them as they are and fostering a mutual growth that respects both partners’ autonomy.

Self-Trust and Surrender in Life’s Challenges

Consider the example of dealing with an unexpected life event, such as an unplanned scenario during a significant life transition. This situation can serve as an opportunity to exercise self-trust and to navigate changes with flexibility and grace. By focusing on what can be controlled — our reactions and our mindset — and surrendering to the process, we create space for resilience and unexpected joys.

Building self-trust empowers us to adapt more easily to the shifts life throws our way. It also softens the edges of our need to control, allowing for a more surrender-driven approach to life's challenges. This doesn't undermine our agency; rather, it enhances our ability to move through life with wisdom and courage.

Embracing Imperfection and Unpredictability

Life is inherently unpredictable, and a part of building self-trust is learning to be at peace with this uncertainty. This means embracing imperfection in ourselves and our circumstances, and understanding that life’s value doesn’t diminish because it doesn’t always conform to our expectations.

Embracing imperfection also allows us to experience greater empathy and compassion towards ourselves and others. It acknowledges our shared human experience, filled with its highs and lows, and can deepen our relationships built on genuine, unconditional acceptance.

Conclusion

The interplay of self-trust, control, and surrender shapes our personal growth and our interactions with others. Cultivating a strong sense of self-trust can mitigate our need for control, paving the way for healthier relational dynamics based on mutual respect and understanding, rather than fear and manipulation. Likewise, learning to surrender to the unpredictability of life can liberate us from the constraints of our own limited perspectives and open up a world of possibilities. In nurturing these qualities, we not only enhance our personal resilience but also foster deeper connections that are built to last.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

1. Reflect on the moments when you’ve felt the need to exercise control in a relationship or a situation. Can you identify what triggers this need for control? Do you see a connection between these moments and your feelings of security or insecurity?

2. Stephanie discusses the concept of surrendering as part of her birth experience. In what areas of your life do you find it difficult to surrender? What do you think holds you back from letting go?

3. Consider your own journey with building self-trust. What are some key experiences that have either fortified or challenged your trust in yourself?

4. Stephanie mentions the impact of unforeseen changes in her birth plan on her emotional state. Think of a time when something did not go according to your plan. How did you handle the situation? What might this reveal about your relationship with control and trust?

5. How do you generally respond to discomfort or challenges? Reflect on whether this approach has evolved over time. What might have influenced any changes in how you deal with discomfort?

6. Examine your reactions to risks and unknowns in relationships. Do you tend to retreat to safety, or can you embrace vulnerability? How does this impact your relationships?

7. Stephanie speaks about the ripple effects of building a relationship with oneself. Can you think of an example from your own life where personal growth in one area has unexpectedly benefited another area of your life?

8. Looking at your attachment patterns, whether anxious or avoidant, how might these patterns influence your need for control in relationships? How could fostering self-trust help alleviate this need?

9. Reflect on the concept of 'meeting parts of oneself that were previously unknown' as Stephanie describes during her birth experience. Have you had a similar experience where a particularly intense challenge revealed aspects of yourself you weren’t aware of?

10. Think about the balance of planning and adaptability in your life. How do you manage the tension between preparing and being open to unexpected outcomes? How could enhancing self-trust help in balancing these dynamics?


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Episode Transcript

[00:00:33]:

A little while since the last episode, which I really apologise for. It was not my intention to have almost a month off, but as some of you would know from Instagram, if you follow me there or you might just have guessed, I had a baby two and a half weeks ago, which was a little bit earlier than expected. I had originally planned to have lots of podcast episodes planned and recorded and scheduled and ready to go so that they would keep rolling on when I took some time off to have a baby. But I think I overestimated how much capacity I would have in those final weeks of pregnancy. And that, combined with the fact that our little boy came a couple of weeks earlier than expected, meant that I didn't have any of those things that I had, hoped to. So we've had a little bit of a break the past few weeks. Everything is going well. Ollie, our little boy, is just gorgeous, and we've been really, really loving soaking up the newborn bubble, which has been so very sweet and exhausting and full on and perfectly lovely.

[00:01:41]:

So, thank you for your patience in this little hiatus that I've had the past month or so, but I'm really glad to be back today to offer some lessons in self trust, control, and surrender, which are themes that I've touched on before on the show, but really have been on my mind in this whole experience of pregnancy, birth, and the first couple of weeks of motherhood. And so, while this isn't an episode about those things, and you don't have to be pregnant or you don't have to have had a baby in order to relate to what I'm going to share, I thought that I'd offer some reflections based on this experience that I've recently gone through. So, you know, I talk a lot about self trust and really how having done the work of cultivating pretty deep self trust, and releasing control, and that's, you know, work that I've done personally over the past few years, how that allowed me to navigate pregnancy and birth, including, you know, certain unforeseen things, things that weren't part of the plan. How that allowed me to navigate those things with a level of trust and confidence and faith in my ability to navigate that, without, you know, crumbling into fear or stress or panic, because something wasn't part of the plan. And, you know, I think that there's lessons in this for most anyone with insecure attachment patterns, because as we'll touch on, I think whether you lean more anxious or more avoidant in your attachment patterns, control is probably something that you lean upon as a way to create a semblance of safety for yourself, when you're feeling unsafe, when you're feeling threatened, when you're feeling out of control. We all have our different mechanisms that we can rely on, whether that's controlling others or controlling our environment, you know, holding others close or pushing them away. But oftentimes, those control mechanisms actually cement us in the patterns that we're trying to shift, rather than actually being constructive in the direction of what we're trying to create now, you know, relationships with ourselves and others. So, gonna be offering some reflections on that today.

[00:04:13]:

Before I dive into that, I just wanted to share that for the next month or so, I decided to run a 50% off sale for all of my master classes and my two courses. It doesn't include healing anxious attachment, which isn't open for registration at the moment, but everything else on my website is 50% off for the next month or so, with the code Hey baby, all one word. So if you are interested in any of those master classes, I've got master classes on building trust, which is sort of in alignment with today's theme, navigating anxious avoidant relationships, boundaries, and also sex and attachment. And then Higher Love, my breakup course, and Secure Together, which is my couples course or relationship course. All of those are 50% off for the next month with the code, hey, baby. So if you're interested in any of those, now would be a great time, and I'll link all of that in the show notes for you. Okay. So let's talk about self trust, control, and surrender.

[00:05:14]:

Now, as I've spoken about so many times before, for me, self trust has been absolutely formative in my relationship with myself. And, you know, that journey for me from insecure attachment, from anxious attachment, to feeling a pretty strong sense of security. Now, as I've said before, that doesn't mean that I never feel anxious, that I never feel stressed, that I never have those, you know, fear driven thoughts. Those patterns are pretty etched in, and those voices can pop up from time to time. But having built up a foundation of self trust has really allowed me to not only navigate those fears, those old wounds within my relationship, but it's had such a ripple effect into my life more broadly. Because I think that oftentimes when we have fear and particularly insecure attachment type fear, the internal dialogue, whether it's, you know, literally there or it's kind of buried underneath whatever the surface level fears are, is, you know, something perhaps gonna happen, and I'm not gonna be able to do anything about it. I'm gonna be trapped. I'm gonna be helpless.

[00:06:32]:

I'm going to be alone, and, you know, backed up against the wall with my hands tied, and I'm not gonna be able to do anything about it. So for someone with more anxious patterns, it's, you know, might be that someone's gonna leave me or I'm gonna be trapped in a relationship with someone who doesn't care about me, who's never gonna show up for me, and I'm gonna, you know, be fighting against this for the rest of my life, and you're never going to be able to meet my needs. All of those things, the sense of being lonely within the relationship, feeling emotionally abandoned and powerless to do anything the the fear around helplessness and a loss of control tends to be, you know, I'm gonna be trapped in an unfulfilling relationship or an imperfect one where I'm gonna lose myself and, you know, I'm just going to be unhappy and life's going to feel really empty. And that feels terrifying. You know, what if I'm trapped in a loveless relationship or or whatever? And so these different fears around a loss of control and a feeling of helplessness can really be very persuasive, can be very all encompassing. And I think that they ultimately do boil down to a lack of self trust, this sense of, you know, something is going to happen that is beyond my control, and I'm gonna be powerless in the face of that. And I think oftentimes those stories are coming from young parts of us, right, Parts that forget that we have agency, and we have choice, and we have tools available. I think that, you know, that feeling of powerlessness and being kind of small and helpless, is not coming from our wise adult self.

[00:08:23]:

It's coming from something, you know, that goes further back than that. And there's often, you know, if we dig into it, we can find where does this originate within me, this fear story that feels so true and so big and all encompassing. But I think because of that, because that undercurrent of a lack of self trust is so pervasive in insecure attachment, building self trust is really, really key, in shifting those patterns. And that allows us to not only feel more at peace in our relationships, but really trust in the unfolding, trust in, you know, imperfection, trust in the ebb and flow of life, of relationships, rather than seeing every little thing as a warning sign that the worst is coming, you know, that this is exactly what I feared, and it's all gonna unravel. And, again, I'm gonna be trapped. So I wanted to share a little about my recent experience with self trust and and releasing control, arising from my pregnancy and my birth. So I had a really, really beautiful pregnancy. I absolutely loved being pregnant.

[00:09:39]:

I know that's, not everyone's experience, and I know that a lot of people raise their eyebrows at me when I say that. I'm, you know, just 2 weeks postpartum, and I already really miss being pregnant despite having my beautiful baby boy to keep me busy. But I think that, you know, part of that experience of of really loving pregnancy, I was feeling so connected to myself, feeling, you know, very little fear or anxiety around birth itself. I know that a lot of people really struggle with the mindset aspect of birth because there's been, you know, so much fear programmed into pregnancy and birth. And so a lot of people really struggle to trust in that process. But I think for me, I was really excited throughout my whole pregnancy to experience birth. Again, that might sound crazy to some people who, you know, whether you've given birth yourself and it wasn't a good experience or you've not given birth and you, like most people, have just seen the depictions of birth that, you know, dominate mainstream TV shows and and movies and and the rest of it, and it shows birth as being this, you know, horrible experience to be endured rather than, you know, anything positive. But for me, I was really looking forward to the opportunity in birth to meet parts of myself that I hadn't met before, that you know, I hadn't been brought into contact with.

[00:11:17]:

And, like, yes, I knew it was gonna be intense and challenging, but I think that, again, for me, having done a lot of work over the past few years around my relationship with myself, I relate to discomfort and challenge and intensity very differently to how I once did. You know, not that long ago in my life, maybe, you know, 5 years ago, I really shied away from anything that was uncomfortable. I was very happily, you know, nestled inside my comfort zone, and, I just didn't really push it at all. But that also kept my life very small. And so, you know, having done work around this, around building self trust, around building like, faith in my own capacity to navigate hard things, meant that I was really looking forward to that opportunity, to really dig deep and to be, you know, to really be pushed to the edge of what I knew I was capable of and to experience the depth of that intensity, and, you know, stay in that and really prove to myself what what was possible. And so for me, birth was something that I was very much looking forward to. I had been planning a home birth with my beautiful midwife. And for me, home birth was, you know, an opportunity to kind of let birth do its thing without intervention or interruption or, you know, really trusting in my body's capacity to give birth when it felt safe.

[00:13:10]:

Unfortunately, towards the end of my pregnancy, my blood pressure started creeping up. And at 38 weeks, I developed preeclampsia, which is a blood pressure related complication for anyone who's not familiar. And that meant that I was not able to have a home birth anymore. I had to transfer to hospital and be induced, which was really disappointing because I really, really wanted to give birth at home. For me, that was so important to my whole vision around birth and my own sense of safety and trust. And I really didn't wanna have an induction for me. That was just a lot of intervention. You know, giving birth in the hospital, I know that that's a really comfortable environment for a lot of people.

[00:14:00]:

For me, it's just not. And so there were a lot of things about that late change in plans that were stressful for me. And I really, you know, had a lot of resistance and a lot of kind of fear and stress around it. And yet, I knew that if I allowed that mindset to take hold, that sense of this wasn't the plan, this isn't how it's meant to be, it's all gonna go to shit now. You know, I I don't have any control over this. And if I allow myself to kind of panic around that, then I would be giving up a lot of my power. And I didn't wanna do that. So I really had to put myself to the test in terms of mindset, and remind myself that, you know, while this wasn't what I'd hoped for, this wasn't the plan.

[00:14:57]:

There were still things that were within my control. I still had capacity to make certain choices within the new parameters of, you know, the situation, the circumstances. And it didn't have to be this all or nothing thing. It didn't have to be, well, there was plan a, but I can't do that now. So plan b, I just have to completely give up on what I was hoping for and what I wanted. And so I, again, really had to dig deep on the mindset front, and not really allow myself to just crumble into the circumstances that were disappointing to me and that sense of grief around not being able to birth at home. And I really think that, you know, in the end, I I had a beautiful birth in hospital. Again, it wasn't the vision, you know, like being hooked up to a drip and all of those things, were not part of the plan.

[00:15:57]:

But I still had a beautiful, unmedicated intervention free, as much as was possible, birth. And it really did allow me to dig into the depths of myself to come into contact with parts of myself that I didn't know were there. And it was bloody hard. It was really, really intense and, you know, more so than I could have imagined. But it was incredibly powerful, and I really believe that my ability to have that experience was a result of my self trust. And, you know, I don't think that we really can surrender without trust. And so whether that's something that resonates with you in the context of a relationship, whether you struggle to let go of control, whether you maybe have the view that, you know, you have to make sure that everything's perfect and certain before you surrender, which I think is a common one. It's like, oh, yeah.

[00:17:11]:

I'll I'll surrender once I've eliminated all risk, which kind of defeats the purpose, right? There's no vulnerability without risk. There's no surrender when we feel like we're in absolute control. It's actually only vulnerable to the extent that we are stepping into some level of unknown and risk, and trusting in spite of that and being courageous in spite of that. So I wanted to share that with you, some reflections on self trust and control and surrender from my recent experience of pregnancy and birth, whether you are in that season of life and this is kind of directly applicable to you in that sense, or whether the pregnancy and birth aspect is completely irrelevant to you, but you struggle with those things in relationships. I suppose I offer this as a reminder of how pervasive and deeply important it is to prioritise these aspects of our relationship to self, and how building that up can have really beautiful but unintended consequences or ripple effects in other areas of life, beyond our relationships. I do have a few other episodes around, you know, more of the how on building self trust, which I'll link in the show notes for anyone who wants to dig into that. As I mentioned, I also have a whole masterclass on building trust, which, covers both trust in relationships and self trust, which along with everything else is available at 50% off for the next month or so, while I'm taking some time and space to hang out with my beautiful baby boy. So I'm gonna do my very best to record a few episodes so that there's not such a big gap between this and the next.

[00:19:19]:

But that will be a matter of controlling what I can control, which at the moment, I cannot control the, feeding and but thank you and thank you for all of the well wishes and beautiful messages that I've received from so many of you on Instagram and elsewhere. I really appreciate your support and all of the love of this community. It means the world to me, so thank you for joining me. I hope that this has been helpful for you, and I look forward to seeing you again next time. Thanks, guys.

[00:23:05]:

Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you wanna go deeper on all things attachment, love, and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a 5 star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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The Pillars of a Positive Relationship with Self

In today's episode, I'm sharing four pillars of a healthy relationship with self, that go beyond "self-love". These are more concrete, actionable focus areas that you can explore as you build a stronger and more resilient sense of self, and in so doing, reap the rewards in your relationship with others. We'll cover:

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In today's episode, I'm sharing four pillars of a healthy relationship with self, that go beyond "self-love". These are more concrete, actionable focus areas that you can explore as you build a stronger and more resilient sense of self, and in so doing, reap the rewards in your relationship with others. 

We'll cover:

  • Self-compassion

  • Self-care

  • Self-respect

  • Self-trust


The Four Pillars of a Healthy Relationship with Yourself

If someone asked you to define self-love, what would your answer be? For many, it's an elusive concept often associated with unattainable standards and an overwhelming sense of inadequacy. However, it doesn't have to be this way. In the latest episode of On Attachment, the focus was on the pillars of a healthy relationship with oneself. Let's break down the four pillars that serve as the foundation for a healthy, thriving relationship with self.

1. Self-Compassion: A Road to Understanding

Unpacking the first pillar, self-compassion, reveals a shift in perspective from self-blame to self-understanding. It's about embracing self-compassion, not as an excuse for irresponsible behaviour, but as a step towards acknowledging, accepting, and holding space for oneself. This practice of turning towards oneself with curiosity effectively replaces the futile cycle of self-criticism with a compassionate and questioning mindset. Self-compassion is the antidote to the toxicity of expecting immediate fixes for our emotional struggles. It's the first step in the journey towards self-awareness, and, consequently, the gateway to more nurturing, grounded relationships with both self and others.

2. Self-Care: Attuning to Your Needs

The label "self-care" has been over-embellished, often associated with superficial acts of relaxation. However, it's imperative to dive deeper into its true meaning – the practice of listening to the needs and rhythms of our bodies, minds, and souls. This goes beyond the stereotypical image of pampering oneself with luxurious treats, extending to genuine attunement to our internal landscapes. It involves a conscious effort to pause, question, and respond to the signals and feedback emanating from within us. By effectively addressing our needs and capacity, we give ourselves the crucial gift of increased self-awareness and, in turn, self-trust.

3. Self-Respect: Cultivating a Foundation of Values

Self-respect is often overshadowed by the quest for self-love, yet it stands as a fundamental building block for a healthy relationship with ourselves. Deficient self-respect often manifests as an uncertainty about personal values, leading to a reliance on external validation. Cultivating self-respect entails understanding individual values, identifying discrepancies between actions and values, and making conscious efforts to realign them. Embracing self-discipline is integral in this process, and it further strengthens self-respect. The imposition of self-discipline is not a means of punishment, but rather a means of personal growth and resonance with one's core values.

4. Self-Trust: Navigating Life's Uncertainties with Conviction

Finally, self-trust is the cornerstone of the internal environment that fosters resilience and courage. It's about trusting in our ability to navigate through life's uncertainties, regardless of their outcomes. This is not about guaranteeing the success of every endeavour, but rather about acknowledging the strength and resources within ourselves to handle whatever life throws at us. By confidently embracing the unknown, self-trust enables us to commit to our values and aspirations, instilling a deep sense of peace and freedom from fear and anxiety.

In the grand scheme of things, building a solid relationship with oneself is a work in progress and is achieved through small, conscious steps towards nurturing self-awareness, compassion, respect, and trust. These pillars intertwine and amplify each other, leading to a profound internal transformation. As old patterns dissolve and new, healthier habits emerge, the journey towards a more substantial, enriching relationship with oneself manifests as a tangible reality. The beauty of this journey lies in the promise of resilience, courage, and an unwavering sense of peace, ultimately paving the way for more meaningful and fulfilling relationships with others.

In conclusion, these pillars serve not only as a formidable guide to building a stronger relationship with oneself, but also as a stepping stone to fostering balanced and fulfilling connections with others. It’s a journey that transcends the notion of self-love as an unattainable destination, and, instead, encapsulates a holistic and nuanced approach to self-care and personal development. As we navigate the complexities of our internal landscapes with compassion, care, respect, and trust, we pave the way towards a life enriched with contentment, resilience, and enduring connections.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. What patterns of seeking external validation have you noticed in your life? How has this impacted your relationship with yourself and others?

  2. How do you approach self-compassion in times of struggle? Are there specific ways you can cultivate more self-compassion in your daily life?

  3. In what ways do you currently practice self-care, and how do you feel about the term "self-care"? Do you think the concept has become overly commercialized, or do you find value in it?

  4. Reflect on a recent decision you made based on your values. How did this decision impact your sense of self-respect and self-trust?

  5. Think about a specific challenge or discomfort you've faced recently. How did you respond to it, and how do you think this reflects on your self-trust and resilience?

  6. Have you ever felt pressure to conform to certain expectations to gain approval or validation from others? How has this impacted your self-respect and integrity?

  7. What changes can you make in your daily life to tune into your body's needs and rhythms? How do you think this would influence your relationship with yourself and your overall well-being?

  8. Consider a situation in your life where you've struggled with self-discipline. What might be the underlying reasons for this struggle, and how does it relate to your self-respect and self-trust?

  9. Reflect on a time when you felt a deep sense of self-trust. What were the circumstances, and how did this impact your decision-making and overall well-being?

  10. Think about a recent experience where you felt a strong sense of resilience. How did this experience influence your self-trust and your perception of your ability to navigate life's uncertainties?



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Episode Transcript

[00:00:25]:

In today's episode, we're talking all about building a healthy relationship with yourself and more specifically, what some of the pillars of a healthy relationship to self are. Now, I've spoken many times on the podcast and elsewhere. If you've been following my work for a while about this idea of self love that is touted in a lot of personal development, content and circles, and how for me, at least personally, that kind of content has never really resonated. I think at various times in my life I've tried to pretend that it resonates and I've gotten kind of anthemic about self love and those nice little quotes and snippets that we might see, but it's never really resonated with me on a deep level because, let's face it, self love, particularly if you treat that as a destination that you're meant to reach a feeling that you're just meant to have. For a lot of us who've struggled with various forms and expressions of insecurity or low self esteem, just a wobbly kind of relationship with yourself and with others, feeling like self love is the destination that we're all meant to be striving towards and ultimately reaching, that can feel like a really big mountain to climb.

[00:01:58]:

And especially so if you've been told the story that self love is a prerequisite to you having a healthy relationship or being happy, living a life that you can be proud of and enjoy. I think if you're waiting for all of that to happen until you reach this nirvana place of self love, then that can feel pretty ironically, it can feel quite defeating and demoralising because that can feel really far away for a lot of people. And certainly for me, even now, I think I have a pretty healthy relationship with myself. I don't know that self love as some sort of destination. It doesn't really feel like a label that fits or that really means much to me. And so all of that being said, and you may have heard me say this before, my personal preference is to focus on some other pillars of self, things that are a bit more tangible and a little bit more specific, a little less abstract, and that are more readily translated into actions and practises that we can weave into our everyday in a way that we, bit by bit, we lay down the bricks and we build this foundation of a really solid relationship with ourselves that doesn't have to be self love as this big, all consuming feeling, but rather is based on just kind of a healthy, integrated, realistic relationship with ourself, that then, I think, allows us to approach relationships with others, whether romantic or otherwise, from a place of integrity and self confidence and self esteem and resilience, which I think should really be the goal for most of us. So in today's episode, I'm going to share four of those pillars of self. And this is inspired by or borrowed from the secure self challenge that I'm running, which starts in less than a week.

[00:04:03]:

So if you're listening to this around the time that it's released, there's still time to join us. It's a 28 day challenge and the four pillars that I'm going to talk about today line up with the four weekly themes that we're going to be diving deep into throughout the challenge. So if you're interested in exploring what I'm talking about today in the format of a challenge, which will have a weekly lesson and then a weekly practise or homework challenge, along with an online community, accountability, a couple of live calls with me, one of which is next week, and having that group experience, I would really love to see you inside the secure self, all of which is linked in the show notes or you can find it on my website. And this will be the last opportunity to join because as I said, we kick off next Monday, I believe. Okay, so let's talk about what it takes to build a healthy relationship with yourself. I want to start by giving you a permission slip, which kind of runs counter to everything that I'm going to say subsequent to this in the episode. And that is that if you are in this place of feeling really rubbish about yourself, feeling like your self esteem is in tatters, and maybe you've been trying therapy and podcasts and courses and books and everything, desperately searching for answers and solutions and fixes for why you feel the way you feel. Sometimes the answer isn't more searching.

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Sometimes the answer isn't continuing to seek the one thing that's going to provide you with the explanation that makes it all make sense, that then provides you with the roadmaps that will give you the solution or the remedy that liberates you from feeling the way that you've been feeling. Sometimes the solution is actually in just taking a break from all of that seeking and searching, because. And we'll come to this in a moment when we talk about self compassion. I think that depending on the mindset that you're in, when you come to any kind of self help, personal development, growth, work, it can either be really, really fruitful and a beautiful gift that you give to yourself, or it can reinforce all of the feelings of defectiveness and shame and brokenness and wrongness that you've been lugging around and that have led you to feel the way that you're feeling. So I think it's important to practise discernment and to get really honest around. Is consuming all of this stuff feeling supportive for me at the moment, or am I kind of frantically clutching at straws from this place of urgency and panic and needing to fix myself? And is that actually helping? Or is that making me feel even more defeated and hopeless and convinced that there's something fundamentally wrong with me? So sometimes when we recognise that it's actually not helping, and sometimes we need to not take it all so seriously and maybe just step away from it and maybe do something different. Give ourselves the time and the space to just be and to accept the process that we're in and the season that we're in, without scrambling desperately to get away from it all. Sometimes there's real peace in that, letting go and realising that we don't need to treat ourselves as a problem to be solved.

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And actually that doing so can make things worse rather than better. So that feeds nicely into the first pillar of self that I want to talk about, which is self compassion. Again, this is something that I've spoken at great length about, not only on the podcast, but in pretty much all of my programmes, because it's completely essential in my mind, to the effectiveness of any of this work, that we are turning towards ourselves with self compassion and curiosity, rather than blaming ourselves, shaming ourselves, having a rigid mindset that tells us that we need to urgently fix and change something. So self compassion is not about coddling ourselves. And I think that's a really important distinction, because some people might have an aversion to the idea of self compassion on the basis of it seeming like we're just removing any accountability or self responsibility. We're giving ourselves a bit of a free pass to behave however we want to, because we're in pain or we're hurt. And I think particularly people can struggle with this in the context of giving compassion to others, of approaching others with compassion and curiosity. When you've been hurt by them.

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But it's so important to understand that the compassion is not mutually exclusive with responsibility, and certainly not in the way that I'm talking about it or the way that I teach it. I think that balancing self compassion with self responsibility is paramount and a really important part of actually making change. But I think as a first step, we need to, rather than spinning around in the stories of why am I like this? What's wrong with me? Why is it so easy for everyone else and so hard for me actually going, okay, what's this really about for me? Why does this thing feel scary? Where does that come from? And approaching ourselves with the starting assumption that our experience makes sense, because all of our experiences, all of our patterns, all of our fears, they don't just spontaneously arise in a vacuum. They are the sum of our experiences. And I think when we really realise that and appreciate that, we can see that it's really a matter of cause and effect, rather than something very opaque and mysterious and dumbfounding that doesn't make any sense and that we need to just try and eradicate. And the more that we can have this mindset and perspective of seeking to understand ourselves from a place of curiosity and from this starting assumption that everything we're struggling with probably makes sense on one level or another, then we can start to actually befriend those parts of ourselves that are afraid or that have these patterns or that drive us to behaviours that we maybe don't like. And we can go, okay, what purpose is this serving? How is it trying to keep me safe? And what do I need? What else could I do? Maybe to offer myself a sense of safety or a sense of security or a sense of whatever else I'm needing, such that this extreme behaviour or this extreme emotional response doesn't feel so needed anymore. So when we start to kind of zoom out and look at those things in a more spacious way, rather than with this clinging, gripping, rigid, fear based mentality of needing to solve our uncomfortable experiences and emotions, then all of a sudden a lot of space is freed up for us to actually start shifting things, but on a foundation of kind of a collaborative, internal relationship between us and all of those different parts and pieces that we are comprised of.

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So self compassion is absolutely essential to any of this work. And the more that you try and solve your anxiety or solve your fear, in the sense of making it go away and making yourself wrong for feeling it, I promise you that it won't work and that it will actually make things worse. And as a side note, the more we do that to ourselves, the more we can offer that to ourselves, the less likely we are to project those same harsh, rigid standards onto other people of perfectionism, of, well, you should just be better or do better or try harder and not having a lot of time or patience for the things that people are struggling with. So I think there's a really positive ripple effect there. Okay, the next pillar of a healthy relationship with self, which is the second week of the secure self challenge that I'm going to be running, is around self care. Now, I know that when a lot of you hear self care, you might have a bit of an eye roll around. I think that self care has been so commoditized in the past decade, probably, and it feels like the domain of glossy magazines and highly produced Instagram content, of having a towel wrapped around your head and like a lovely face mask and a bubble bath and all of the things. But while I'm all for a lovely bubble bath, it's not really what I'm talking about here.

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What I'm really talking about is how attuned and responsive are you to the rhythms and the needs and the capacity of your body and your being? That sounds a little bit esoteric. Let me expand. I think that once upon a time, when I was living a very different life to how I live now, I pretty much just pushed through all the time. So if I was tired, I would have more coffee. If I had a headache, I would take painkillers and keep pushing. If I had a cold, I would again just take something to dull the symptoms so that I could plough on with whatever I was doing. Because all of those things in my body were inconvenient and were getting in the way of my agenda, which was just to do what I had to do. When I look back on that now, I can see how disconnected I was from my body and the needs of my body and the rhythms of my body, and how detrimental that was ultimately, because it also meant that I was disconnected from the emotions of my body and to what I was just talking about around self compassion.

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When we treat all of those signals and feedback that we're getting from our body as kind of inconvenient and getting in the way of what we would prefer or desire or what we want to do, and we just try and make it all go away, stuff it down, that tends not to work, and it tends to really come back to bite us with a vengeance. So when I'm talking about self care here, it's really, can I become more attuned to myself. I think even the fact that this might sound kind of woo woo and esoteric to many of you speaks to how deeply disconnected we are collectively from our bodies, that we all kind of walk around on autopilot in this mode of busyness and to do lists and hustle, and how that really reliably leads us to feel burnt out and not only disconnected from ourselves, but disconnected from other people, chronically tired, chronically sick. And I think that it's really hard to have a positive relationship with yourself when you are living like that. So I think that the more that we can consciously train ourselves to cheque in on what do I need? How am I feeling? What is my capacity? How can I resource myself today to feel more grounded, more present, more energised? Do I need to take things slower or do I have more energy? Do I need to move my body? All of these things that when we, as I said, train ourselves to attune to that and turn towards that and cheque in with ourselves regularly, then that really feeds into this broader relationship of self awareness. And we then kind of indirectly build more self trust because we know that we're a really good caretaker of ourselves. Whereas when we ignore all of that and we just plough through and we bulldoze and we push on and we hustle, then we don't have much of a relationship of self trust because we know that we're not very responsible carers. Right? In the same way as if you were responsible for caring for someone else and you consistently ignored the signals and needs that they had, and it was making them chronically sick, tired and burnt out, then they probably wouldn't rely on you as someone who was going to be responsive and attuned to them in a way that cultivated trust and safety.

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So recognising that you have that same responsibility to yourself to build up that relationship and that it reaps so many rewards beyond just feeling better. It's not just about having a picture perfect kind of self care routine. That's again, not what I'm talking about. It's just this moment to moment practise of pausing and tuning in and going, how am I feeling? What do I need? So, self care as a practise of turning towards ourselves and becoming more present to what is here today and how we can bring more nourishment and groundedness to that is a really, really valuable practise in nurturing your overall relationship with yourself. Okay, so the third pillar of self that I want to speak about is self respect. And I am really bullish on self respect as a fundamental building block of an overall healthy relationship with self. So this is particularly one that I think, if the self love stuff doesn't land for you, focus on self respect. If you want to build self worth, focus on self respect.

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I say this as someone who, for many, many years, and I only realised this in hindsight, I had a pretty shocking relationship of self respect. And what this looked like for me was I didn't really know what my values were. I didn't really like myself very much. I relied a lot on external validation and wanting to be liked, wanting people to see me in a certain way. And so I just acted in ways and did things that, for whatever reason, gave me some hit of feeling temporarily good about myself, but very often left me with this residue of anxiety or discomfort, or just not feeling good about how I was acting, who I was being. And I think there was no internal foundation of knowing who I was or knowing what my values were. And that really easily and reliably led me off track and led me astray. And I really suffered as a result of that because I really didn't like myself.

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And I can see now, in hindsight, how clearly that came from a lack of self respect. So I believe deeply that building your self respect is one of the best things that you can do. And arguably, if you take nothing else away from this episode, think about self respect. Think about, do I have self respect? Or if I don't, why not? What leads me to feel a lack of self respect? Because I think that that's really deeply important. And it's something that, while we may not think about it very much, I think a lot of people, if they were to reflect and introspect on it, they'd probably find that, yeah, that is a missing piece in my relationship with myself, as I don't have a lot of self respect. So how do we go about building that? I've spoken about this as well before, I think getting really clear on your values and then doing a bit of an audit, going, okay, where am I not stacking up? Where am I out of alignment and trying to close the gap? There is a really useful and kind of practical first step. I also think that challenging yourself, so self discipline, I think, is closely related to self respect. It's almost like a sub bullet underneath self respect.

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Following through on the things that you say you're going to do and actually challenging yourself, doing hard things, rather than staying in a very small comfort zone and listening to those stories that tell you that you can't do certain things or that that's too hard, or I'm not that kind of person, really push those stories and go, if that's the kind of person I want to be, then what's stopping me? And if it's just a matter of you showing up and doing something hard and continuing to show up and maybe being bad at something to begin with, but then getting better, I don't think there's many more powerful ways to build self respect than through self discipline. And again, that's something that has been relatively new to my life. I don't think I've always been self disciplined, but certainly in the last five years or so, that's something that I've really embraced and that I now see as such a gift to myself rather than some punishment that I'm imposing upon myself. So learn to embrace hard things. Learn to embrace challenge and growth through challenge and discomfort, and self respect will flow as a natural consequence from that. And I think you'll really notice a shift in your overall relationship with yourself. Okay, last but not least is self trust. So again, I could easily talk for a very long time about self trust or any of these other pillars, but just to give you a bit of a feel, why is self trust so important to our relationship with ourself? I think in the absence of self trust, it's very, very hard to not only trust in others, but I would argue, more importantly, it's very hard to trust in our own resilience.

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And for me, this is really the kernel of self trust that is the most rewarding is. And again, I'll speak from personal experience. I think in cultivating a relationship of self trust within myself, I feel a level of peace around whatever might happen in my life. That's a big statement, but it's one that I do attribute to having a pretty solid foundation of self trust. It's this sense of, I know that a lot of things aren't within my control, but I trust in my ability to navigate what life throws at me. And so I can be decisive and I can back myself and I can take steps in the direction of what I value, what I hope for, what is important to me, while also surrendering to the unknown and the uncertainty and knowing that a lot of stuff is not guaranteed. I can't guarantee that my relationship is going to work out. I can't guarantee that anything in my work or my business is going to go the way that I would hope or plan.

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But all of that being said, and being true. I also trust that if and when something unexpected or something disappointing or something challenging arises, that I will have the tools and the resources and the support to deal with it. And so I think that having that kind of internal environment makes you not only more courageous, but far more resilient and much more at peace. Because you're not living in constant fear or anticipation of everything bad that could happen, and trying desperately and wasting so much energy trying to prevent something bad from happening. Because I think a lot of us, particularly those who struggle with anxiety, do just end up spinning your wheels and expending so much energy on playing out every possible worst case scenario and then reverse engineering to try and prevent that from ever happening, to this point where your whole life becomes about the thing that you don't want, rather than pursuing the things that you do want with presence and optimism. And I think, again, all of these pillars of self that I've spoken about in today's episode, I think they feed off each other and they reinforce each other. So the more self respect you build, the more self trust you'll have, the more you have a really caring and attuned relationship with yourself, the more self trust you'll have. And the more self trust you have, the more you're going to do those other things as well, because they all fit together really neatly, like puzzle pieces.

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And as you start to change the internal environment in one way, some of those older patterns around hustle and burnout, and ignoring boundaries and approval seeking, and people pleasing and doing things that aren't comfortable for you just to make everyone else happy, those behaviours stop feeling compatible with the new internal environment that you're building. And so you get this sort of full system upgrade as you start sowing the seeds of a healthier relationship with self, some of those old behaviours that have felt like a fit in your current inner world may naturally just fall away as they stop being a match for where you're at and the kind of relationship that you're really cultivating with yourself. So I hope that this has been helpful in, I suppose, broadening out the lens if you've ever felt a little discouraged by self love advice, or even you've heard about the importance of building self worth, but you haven't really known where to start or what that means or what that looks like. Hopefully breaking it down a level further into these subcategories or these pillars starts to crystallise what you can do. And as I said, I like these pillars because I think they do translate more tangibly into day to day practises and things that we can be consciously choosing. Kind of putting runs on the board every day. And it doesn't have to be big, dramatic things. It's just one step at a time, one day at a time.

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But with the passage of time, you can look back and realise that you've made really profound changes in the direction of who you want to be and how you want to live your life. And that is very rewarding work. So I hope that this has been helpful. As I said, if you've enjoyed today's episode and you want to join us in the secure self challenge where we dive into each of these themes over four weeks, I would love to see you in there. You've got about five days left to join before we kick off next week with our opening call. I'd love to see you there, but otherwise, thank you so much for joining me and I look forward to seeing you again next time. Thanks, guys.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of on attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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In today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Morgan Anderson and we're talking all about building self-worth, self-esteem and self-confidence in the context of dating. Dr. Morgan is a licensed clinical psychologist, attachment theory expert, relationship coach, and author of the relationship self-help book, Love Magnet. She is also the host of the Let's Get Vulnerable podcast.

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In today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Morgan Anderson and we're talking all about building self-worth, self-esteem and self-confidence in the context of dating. Dr. Morgan is a licensed clinical psychologist, attachment theory expert, relationship coach, and author of the relationship self-help book, Love Magnet. She is also the host of the Let's Get Vulnerable podcast.

In our conversation, we cover:

  • how insecure attachment styles fuel unhealthy dating patterns

  • how low self-worth and a lack of self-trust impact our dating mindset

  • common shifts that occur as you rewire old patterns and move towards secure attachment

  • practical tools and tips for shifting your dating mindset and building a secure dating persona

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Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. How do your past experiences or attachment patterns influence your approach to dating and relationships?

  2. What are some negative beliefs about yourself that may be impacting your self-worth in relationships?

  3. Can you identify any adaptive coping mechanisms or protective strategies that stem from past relational trauma? How do they affect your current relationships?

  4. How might self-compassion play a role in healing your wounds and developing a healthier approach to dating?

  5. In what ways can you broaden your perspective on self-worth beyond the context of relationships? What activities or interests bring value and fulfillment to your life outside of romance?

  6. Have you experienced a corrective emotional experience in your relationships that positively impacted your attachment style? If not, how might you seek out such experiences?

  7. What are some intentional ways you can maintain a sense of self and pursue your individual interests while dating or in a relationship?

  8. Have you noticed any urgency in your approach to relationships? If so, how might slowing down and reorienting yourself lead to more informed choices and healthier dynamics?



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Episode Transcript

Stephanie Rigg [00:00:29]:

In today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Morgan Anderson and we are talking all about building self worth and a secure identity in the context of dating, which I know is something that a lot of listeners are going to be really, really interested to hear about. Dr. Morgan is a licenced clinical psychologist, attachment theory expert, relationship coach and author of the relationship self help book Love Magnet. She's also the host of the let's get Vulnerable podcast and the creator of the empowered, secure loved relationship programme. Our conversation covers a lot of ground from why we get stuck in the same patterns, why we find ourselves going after unavailable people, why we would want to do the work, to rewire all of that. What that work actually looks like some really practical steps that you could start taking towards building a more secure identity and actually creating the kind of relationship that you want and enjoying yourself in the process. So I'm sure that you guys are going to love this conversation and I'm really looking forward to sharing it with you. Dr. Morgan, thank you so much for joining me.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:01:36]:

Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited about our conversation.

Stephanie Rigg [00:01:40]:

Yeah, likewise. So maybe we could start by you just introducing yourself and giving everyone a bit of a feel for what you do and the kinds of people that you usually help in your work.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:01:54]:

Yes, I am Dr. Morgan Anderson. I am the host of the let's get vulnerable podcast and I help women heal and have high self worth so that they can attract the relationships they my, I call it like my former life. I was a clinical psychologist, I still am a clinical psychologist. And then I saw how big of a gap there was in terms of attachment theory and people knowing about attachment theory and how to apply it to their dating lives. And I started this coaching business about four years ago and now have had the pleasure of coaching over 500 women and helping them become more securely attached and step into their high self worth version of themselves. So it's been a wild ride the last four years and I love what I do. And of course, as you know, Stephanie, for a lot of us who are drawn to this field, this really was a calling for me because it was my own personal struggle.

Stephanie Rigg [00:03:09]:

To say, is there that thread of personal story that led you to really knowing how deeply this was needed and having walked that path yourself?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:03:19]:

Yes. Isn't that the case for those of us that really run with this? It starts with the personal story, and that was certainly the case for me of experiencing childhood trauma that then led me to really painful dating patterns all through my twenty s. And then I tell people that my rock bottom moment really was when I was dating a narcissist. And that relationship just got to a very unhealthy place, and I was kind of at that fork in the road of, I can keep doing this, but I know I am causing so much damage to myself and every relationship I go through is just getting more and more painful. So at that rock bottom place, I decided I need to heal, and I really threw myself into researching attachment theory and ways to rewire your belief system. I'm really happy to say I'm three years into a wonderful, healthy, securely attached partnership, and I think if it's possible for me, it's really possible for anyone.

Stephanie Rigg [00:04:30]:

Yeah, it sounds like there are some common threads in our respective stories there, because I had a similar experience of when I was younger, my first two long term relationships were, I think, just probably by pure luck, were quite healthy. But then I had this relationship in my mid 20s, which was really not healthy at all. Very dysfunctional, like very classic anxious, avoidant, every expression of that dynamic. And it was really only through that experience, as stressful as it was. And I look back and it's quite amazing to me that I persisted in it because I stayed in it for three years. Amazing to me that I persisted through so much dysfunction and so much just like, striving and pushing all the time, every day. But I really don't regret it at all because it was that that pushed me to the bring. And in a funny sort of way, I can look back now and see that the patterns that really came to the fore in that relationship were sort of latent in me in those earlier relationships, but they sort of weren't brought out as much because the relationship was more secure.

Stephanie Rigg [00:05:44]:

But it was only in really seeing those parts of myself that were exacerbated through that dynamic that I was able to then go, okay, this needs my attention. As much as it has a nice story to tell myself that it's all his fault because he's just a bad guy. There's a part of me that's getting something out of this because I didn't just walk away at the start right. There were all of the signs there. And I, for some reason, was attracted to that challenge. And so I think that having those experiences, it's not like we need to go and seek out awful relationships for the sake of growth. But I think when we can look back and go, okay, there's something in this that's more than just, oh, I just attract all the bad guys. It's like, well, what is it within me that is attracted to that? That really gives us a lot of fertile ground for growth and self exploration and healing if we're brave enough to do that work.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:06:42]:

Oh, so powerful for you to share that. It makes me think about the concept repetition compulsion, which, you know, where we are in our adult relationships, repeating unfinished business from our childhoods. And yes, there are those relationships like the one you described, where it is your unfinished business just staring at you. You can't avoid it. And you see those wounds that have never been examined or never been healed. And yes, it is an opportunity to do that deeper work so that we can then intentionally go into our future relationships. So it's a very empowering way to look at it. And I do.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:07:30]:

I'm incredibly grateful for that relationship that I went through because, yes, it was probably my most toxic relationship, and it is the one that made me say, this pattern has to stop and to finally really see my wounds. So, yeah, I'm with you now. I have a lot of gratitude for it. At the time, I didn't, but now I do.

Stephanie Rigg [00:07:57]:

Yeah, totally. So is there kind of an archetype of person who you're seeing again and again? Like, who are the kinds of people that you're working with? What are the things they're struggling with? Is there a pretty clear pattern or a few key patterns that you're seeing?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:08:14]:

Yeah, a lot of the people that I work with have found themselves in relationships that don't end well or relationships that don't meet their needs, or they're constantly attracted to that emotionally unavailable partner who can't meet them? I work with both anxiously attached and avoidantly attached individuals, and also a lot of disorganised attachment. As you know, that's really common in my work, since that's so connected to early childhood trauma. And I think that oftentimes with disorganised attachment, we can just find ourselves in really painful dynamics. And then those folks are a little bit more motivated to seek help. So a lot of disorganised attachment, but women will come to me when they say, okay, I've blamed the dating pool. I've blamed all the guys, but now I'm taking ownership. I am the common denominator. I want to own my role in this and they're so ready to heal and do the work and they just don't want to be in pain in their relationships anymore.

Stephanie Rigg [00:09:32]:

Yeah. That sense of exasperation, of, like, surely it's not meant to be this hard. I'm looking around me and it feels like other people are managing to do this. And despite my best intentions and the fact that I really want a relationship, why does it keep ending the same way? Why do I keep finding myself? And I think a lot of what I see and hear from people is they're attracted to someone that really seems all kind of picture perfect until it isn't. And not only is that painful to play out, but every time you play it out, your self trust just kind of withers, right? Your ability to go, oh, do I just have terrible judgement because I thought things were one way and now it's this 180. And so then that really erodes my sense of self moving into the next relationship and the next person I meet, because I'm scared of my own, scared of myself, scared of my patterns. And so there's like this internal vigilant, just like this barren self trust environment. And I think that when we combine that with general anxiety or.

Stephanie Rigg [00:10:46]:

I talk a lot about how I think much of the time when we're afraid of something, we're afraid of our own feelings, I don't want to experience that because of the embarrassment or the rejection or the shame or the hurt that I might feel if that thing comes to pass. And so we just end up in overdrive and it sucks all of the joy out of it. I think there's just like, from all of these angles, people are having a really hard time navigating this, and it doesn't feel like it's getting any easier.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:11:18]:

Oh, I love that you mentioned this about self trust. That is such a key. And I do think that's a common thread in people that I work with, is just that disconnection from self and being unable to tell, okay, what is my past trauma? Or what is my insecure attachment style versus what is my inner knowing? What is the truth? What is my gut? And I know when you get to that place, it does, it just makes dating exhausting. And then you get a lot of people who overcorrect and they say, I'm never going to date again. And they're not in the dating scene. Right. They're giving up on love and just going to travel the world with their girlfriends. But then at the end of the day, they admit to themselves they do want partnership and they realise, okay, I have to go about dating differently and I think that speaking of self trust, for so many people, you probably find this. It started early on, that disconnection from self.

Stephanie Rigg [00:12:34]:

Yeah. And I think that one of the hardest things and something I hear time and time again and something I've experienced myself is like, how can I trust myself when I had this paranoia or this fear and it came to fruition and so it's like banking evidence in favour of the fear story that's telling me I was right. And so that protective part of me that's on the lookout, that's hyper vigilant, that's snooping or that's paranoid. When it gets proven right by an experience or a relationship, then that only bolsters the perceived importance of that pattern going forward. It's really hard from that place to go, okay, I'm going to just drop that and stop doing it because it feels like it's serving such an important protective function. And so I think there's all of these pieces that are operating there to keep us really entrenched in our patterns and we just keep spinning around in them.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:13:30]:

Yes, it's so true. And I love when people start to build self trust and they're gaining that inner knowing and they're hopefully moving towards secure attachment. I see those things as being so interconnected and they're able to feel when something is off early on. I've had so many clients who go, oh, my gosh, now that I've done this work and I'm moving towards secure attachment, I know that I just saved myself six months of games, six months of heartache. I felt it early on. I trusted myself and something that in the past, I would have just predicted it and catastrophized and yes, it would have happened. I was able to just remove myself early on and I think there's so much, oh, gosh, it's just such a big win to me. When we know what to invest our energy into early on and we can feel it.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:14:34]:

I guess it's preventative heartbreak. I love that so much. Yeah.

Stephanie Rigg [00:14:40]:

I think that it's probably not something that happens overnight, but you can, over time doing this work, take stock and go, yeah. Things that used to be attractive to me, I'm just so not interested in that kind of gameplaying or just that kind of energy, like flakiness, inconsistency doesn't do anything for me anymore in a way that it would have, once upon a time, really lit my system up and sent me into some sort of like, made me go in for more to investigate or to try and clarify or to gather information. It's just like that falls away a bit and you cease to be drawn to that kind of dynamic because you've built enough of the new stuff within you that's like, oh, that doesn't feel like a fit anymore for where I'm at, where I'm going.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:15:31]:

Yes, I love that so much. When you can start to feel that shift within you of being attracted to secure attachment and a securely attached relationship. I remember when I was doing this work on myself and feeling like, where did all of these good, emotionally available men come from? Did they just fall from the sky? Where have they been? The reality was I just wasn't attracted to them when I was in my disorganised attachment place. So it's so true that we can really change who we are attracted to and what kind of relationship dynamic is attractive to us.

Stephanie Rigg [00:16:16]:

Yeah, I posted something yesterday which was from a previous podcast episode and it was along the lines of when we've been in those really inconsistent, kind of chaotic, dysfunctional relationships, that intermittent reinforcement that we get is so addictive. And so when we then start to step towards healthier relationships, it can feel like it's just not doing much for us in those early transitional stages when you're doing this work. And I think a lot of people will experience that and relate to that, this sense of healthy feeling. Boring at first, yes. When your system is really calibrated to spikes and chaos and the person who is kind of mean to you or doesn't meet your needs or is really unavailable most of the time, but then they turn up and they take you out to dinner, that's going to feel so much better for your system when you're used to that than the person who takes you out to dinner every week and is really consistent and available, right?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:17:25]:

Absolutely.

Stephanie Rigg [00:17:26]:

So recognising that, recognising that, that's a powerful system. And being really conscious about, like, which part of myself do I want in the driver's seat here? The part that is going to respond really automatically to those old patterns. Do I want to be led by that kind of like pinball machine lighting up inside me and just follow the feeling? Or do I want to make really conscious decisions in the direction of what I know is best for me and what I know is right for me? Because I think if we do just keep following those familiar feelings, we're going to follow them down familiar paths to familiar dynamics with familiar relationships, we know what we want.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:18:08]:

Yeah.

Stephanie Rigg [00:18:09]:

And then we go, oh, why does this keep happening to me?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:18:12]:

Exactly. I love that you're talking about this. We talk about this in my community a lot. And one of the sayings I have is secure is sexy because it is part of that rewiring the brain to adjust to a new normal, to say, wow, emotional availability is really attractive and starting to learn that there's different levels of intimacy that come with that and a different kind of intimacy that is stable and predictable. I think what we find, and I don't know, this is my own personal experience, my clients experience. Maybe you relate to this, of when you've been in that for a while and you're starting to normalise into it, you then see, oh, wow, this is really attractive, this is really amazing and really different from anything I've had before. And I don't even know how to really put it into words. But you know what I'm saying, right?

Stephanie Rigg [00:19:17]:

It's like this deep nourishment that your system can actually just rest in relationships. And I think if you've always had a lot of insecurity, if that's been kind of the dominant force of your relationships has been stress and insecurity, it's probably just like the medicine that you didn't realise how deeply you needed it to actually just be able to rest in the safety of a relationship.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:19:42]:

I love that word rest because the word that comes to me is relax. That ability to relax into love and to create a partnership that really feels like home, that is easy. There's so much joy and love that comes from that, that so many people with relational trauma in their childhoods have probably never experienced that kind of relationship before.

Stephanie Rigg [00:20:14]:

Of course there's trust in it, right? It's really hard to trust that it's real. And so we can go so quickly to trying to find the problem or trying to find where it's all going to fall apart. When's the other shoe going to drop? When's it all going to go south? Because that's just what we know and that's what we've been really primed to expect, right?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:20:38]:

Yes. And people who are becoming secure will have extinction bursts. You've heard of that term where you're learning this new behaviour, you're becoming securely attached and then your brain goes, hey, but what about this insecure attachment behaviour? What about all these old protest behaviours? That we've used before. Are you sure you don't want these? And then they come back with a vengeance. Right. So I have these women that I'm helping and they'll say, oh, my gosh, I was doing so well and then all of a sudden I had this huge anxious attachment spiral and really, that's extinction. Bursts of the brain saying, well, hey, this was our old way of being. This worked for us for a really long time.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:21:27]:

Are you sure you don't want this?

Stephanie Rigg [00:21:29]:

Yeah, well, I think when we've got those protective strategies that feel so deeply etched into us, it's like muscle memory. It's like if you're right handed, you're learning to write with your left hand and it's just like, oh, the pull to the old way. Those parts of you that really are protective, right, and were once adaptive, it can feel really scary. For those parts to feel like you're trying to make them go away, it's like, oh, you are bad, and I'm going to make you stop now. It's why I really emphasise approaching ourselves with self compassion and not being like, oh, I'm so fucked up, I'm so broken, I've just got to stop being so anxious or I've got to stop being so scared. Makes a lot of sense, right? My anxiety. What's my anxiety trying to keep me safe from. What's my anxiety trying to tell me and recognising that.

Stephanie Rigg [00:22:27]:

That part of you or those parts of you have been working really tirelessly to keep you safe for a really long time and that that's not something we need to make go away. We just need to maybe look at whether that's still adaptive to our current situation and environment and what we're working towards. And to the extent that it isn't, it's like, well, okay, can I come up with some new tools and new ways of doing things that are maybe a better fit for where I am and where I'm going?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:22:56]:

Absolutely. When we are critical or we shame those parts of ourselves, we just maintain them and then we can make them bigger, we make them come out sideways. So 100% agree with you of compassion, kindness, curiosity, being willing to explore, what's the story I'm telling myself there? What needs a little bit more healing? What's the wound that's coming up? Right. And then I teach this in my programme about how do we then have compassion and then say, how do I realign with this securely attached version of me and what does my current healthy coping look like, but so many people, they don't do the compassion right. They're just beating themselves up and then they just want to try to move back to a healthier version. But we know you won't be able to move through things without that compassion. It's so needed.

Stephanie Rigg [00:24:02]:

Yeah, I think I often say the shame, it's just layering more and more stress onto a system that's already in a lot of stress. If I'm just making myself wrong for everything about my experience and when unworthiness and low self esteem is already at the heart of a lot of that, punishing ourselves, beating ourselves up, criticising ourselves, not going to make that better, right? That's just going to make that feel more true. All of our stories of low self esteem, low self worth. So I think that recognising that we have to turn things around there and that really starts within. It's going to be very hard to do any kind of meaningful growth or healing work from a place of shame and solve criticism. It just tends not to work very well.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:24:50]:

It's so true. It's so true. And then I think once people are in that more secure place or they've done some of that inner work and they're building their self worth, then what I know we probably both see is where people start to have new relationship experiences. I call these corrective emotional experiences. Right. And what I love about that is then you're gaining evidence for the healthy relationship, for the secure relationship. And I know how significant that is for people in their healing process.

Stephanie Rigg [00:25:31]:

Yeah, and I would say that's true even if you don't go on to be in a long term relationship and marry the person. It's just like, can I allow myself to really receive the goodness of this experience irrespective of what happens? I think the more we shift away from some of those insecure patterns, the more we can just be open to presence and curiosity in the dating process, in getting to know someone. And even if it's not a great fit, you might just find yourself really nourished by a connection over dinner and talking to someone and feeling a level of authenticity and confidence within yourself. That can be a beautiful corrective experience, even if it doesn't go anywhere or nothing becomes of it. I think that think it we are, then the more we can take all of that in and really receive it and receive the benefit of it. Whereas when we're in that really constricted anxious space, it's just such a strong negative bias. So it's like everything feels like a failure or a setback, just not perfect. And that's what we're trained to see and that's really what we take in.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:26:43]:

Oh, I love that you're talking about this because one of the things I would want to share is this idea that really healthy, secure attachment is the foundation in dating. And so many of us, if we don't have that foundation, we're getting stuck in those anxious, avoidant or unhealthy relationship patterns. And that's kind of really easy to pull us in and just get us stuck in that place. But when we have secure as the foundation, then we get to this really juicy, fun, exciting level of dating where we're able to actually look at compatibility and values and how do I want to feel? It's almost like the next level. I know for a fact when I was in an insecure attachment place, dating was just kind of this challenge and I was so wrapped up in fear of abandonment that I just wanted to make somebody like me and choose me. I couldn't access compatibility because I was so focused just on that attachment level. So I just think it's so powerful when just as you said, you get to a secure place, you're in this abundance mindset, you know your worth and then you're just exploring compatibility and values and do I even like this person? Is this someone where our lifestyles match up? Right. It's just such a juicier, more fun place to be.

Stephanie Rigg [00:28:16]:

Yeah. And I think that everything you say there around the sole criterion being like, does this person like me? For a lot of people, particularly with more anxious attachment patterns, it's just like they really like me. So great, let's go. And there's no sense of reciprocity around, like, am I scoping out whether I like them or am I just feeling really flattered, lit up like that deeply unworthy part of me loves the attention and loves someone pursuing me. And that's kind of all I need to get myself hooked into the pattern. And I think that when we tend to that part of us so that it's not so susceptible to those little bursts of ego attention, then the much better place we are to have a balanced approach where we are there and we're thinking about like, as you say, how do I want to feel? What are my values? What are my non negotiables? What are the things that are really important to me in a partner, in a relationship? And I think the other side of that, it's kind of this balancing act of we want to have clarity. And we want to be able to advocate for those things. And we don't want to be too rigid or prescriptive, like, we want to be open to being surprised by someone.

Stephanie Rigg [00:29:32]:

And I think that having that secure base within ourselves allows us to walk that line in a way that, as you say, is kind of fun, or at least feels like a totally different energy to a very constricted, anxious, rigid way of doing things, which is just kind of bracing for fear and trying to get someone to like us, which is not fun. Right?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:29:59]:

Yes. I think about this deep knowing of, hey, if I've already chosen myself and I know my worth, and I've released some of my unfinished business from the past, then I can really approach dating with this blank slate. And I'm not here trying to get you to choose me. I've chosen myself. And it is just such a different approach. Yeah.

Stephanie Rigg [00:30:29]:

And I imagine as well, a key piece of that is I'm not making it mean anything about me at a fundamental level. If you like me or you don't, or however it plays out, I can be somewhat. It's not that we become immune to that. I think you can be really securely attached and still have hurt feelings or be disappointed or upset if something doesn't work out and you were really excited about it, but you don't take that additional step of like, what's wrong with me? This always happens. No one's ever going to like me. Those old stories that come up and drag us down, I think you can just be with that, whatever the emotion is without taking that additional step of telling really painful stories about yourself and letting that impact your worth at a really fundamental level.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:31:18]:

Oh, it's so true. So true. And I think about all of my years of, I'll call it unconscious dating, where I did have all those negative beliefs about myself, and I would just use whatever negative experiences happened to me in dating as ways to confirm those really unhealthy beliefs about myself. So our brains are very good at looking to confirm whatever we believe and that we look to our environment. So that's why I really believe in doing this healing work and looking at your belief systems and releasing your past so that when you do go into dating, it's a blank slate weighed by all of that. Yes.

Stephanie Rigg [00:32:09]:

So if we were to pivot to giving people a bit of a sense of the how on all of this, I feel like we've painted the picture of why you'd want to do it and what's possible. What does the how look like I love this question.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:32:25]:

I think it's a very important one. One of the first pieces is the commitment of I really do want to work on myself and I know how important this work is. So just making that decision and releasing expectations on how long it's going to take it is a journey. So I think that's very important of I make the commitment, however long it takes. The second piece would be awareness. You have to understand what are my current patterns, what is my attachment style. And then I take my clients through something called a relationship inventory, where we really look at all the dynamics of past significant relationships. That's part of the awareness piece, processing those old woundings and being willing to look at it.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:33:17]:

I'm not one of those coaches who's going to come on here and say, oh, just write out the life that you want and say your affirmations and then you'll have exactly what you want. That's not how healing works. The only way forward is through, as you know. So I really believe in examining our past in the beginning. Yeah.

Stephanie Rigg [00:33:41]:

And I think that intention setting is great and conscious awareness is great. And as we talked about earlier, there's a doing piece here. We actually have to step out into the world and let our system, our being, live out another version of things. Because if we have a lot of evidence banked up as to why our old beliefs or our old experiences are true and the only way, then no amount of journaling or visioning is going to be enough to shift that. It's a really great start, but it's only part of the story there. And I think that having that lived experience is invaluable. We really can't land in that new reality until we're feeling it in our body in a really experiential way.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:34:37]:

Absolutely, yes. So, yeah, definitely the awareness piece, being willing to show up differently with behaviours as you're describing, and showing up with new ways of being. I also really believe in identifying your securely attached identity. So getting really familiar with what would secure attachment look like in practise. So many of us don't have that model, we wouldn't even know what it would be. So really defining your securely attached identity and then using self compassion, use it to realign with that securely attached self when needed. So I guess those are some of the core things. I know we could probably spend a few hours going over the exact path, but I really believe in awareness.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:35:36]:

Rewire your brain with really healthy beliefs about yourself and relationships. Learn about your securely attached identity. Create that very clearly and then practise showing up differently.

Stephanie Rigg [00:35:51]:

Yeah, I would also add to that something that I will often say to people is like, when you're working on building your self worth in relationships or in dating, it can really help to work on building your self worth outside of that context as well. Because I think that particularly if you're, again, more anxious in your patterns and your tendency is for all roads to lead back to relationships. Right. Everything I'm doing, I'm doing it to find a partner and to be loved. I think sometimes if we're really laser focused on that, even if we're doing all this good work, can be with like, the strings attached of, I'm doing it so that someone will love. And so I think there can be huge benefit in broadening out our scope and going, okay, securely attached version of me would also have all of these other things going on in my life, right? And maybe I'd be practising more self discipline in other areas, maybe I'd be challenging myself, maybe I'd be taking up a hobby or whatever, but not having it all be in this very narrow funnel that is about securing a partner. Because I think the reality is that securely attached people do have much more balanced lives. And that sense of self worth is not just relational in nature, it's really essential to your identity and your self image.

Stephanie Rigg [00:37:18]:

And so I think that can be hugely helpful and pay really big dividends to broaden out the lens a little. And I know for me that that was a really big piece in building that up for myself and eventually leaving that relationship that I was in was that I was not even really focused on the relationship so much. I think I'd started to kind of detach from it, but I didn't quite have the courage or the confidence to pull the trigger and leave. But in the background, I was doing all of this stuff to really focus on, I suppose, anchoring in my own value and my own efficacy and capability. And these things that were not about love or romance or partnership, they were just about like, no, you're a valuable person and you've got this right, you're strong and you're capable. And I think that having those experiences in a kind of broad way can be really, really helpful. When it comes back to all of.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:38:19]:

This stuff, I love that you mentioned this. It's so powerful. I wrote a quote that did well on social media, and I think it's because it's a metaphor for this idea. But I said something along the lines of the kind of relationship where you're not my entire world, but you're my favourite continent to visit.

Stephanie Rigg [00:38:45]:

Yeah.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:38:46]:

Because I really love that idea. We cannot have our relationship be our entire world. It's not healthy for us. It's not healthy for our partners. My partner and I, three years together, we do something called solo Saturdays. We do whatever really fills us up as individuals on Saturdays. And we know that we need that time, and it's incredibly important. He's a fly fisherman.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:39:15]:

He loves fly fishing. And in my old relationships, I know I would have tried to force myself to take on his hobby to learn.

Stephanie Rigg [00:39:25]:

How to fly fish.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:39:26]:

I can't tell you how grateful I am that I am in this secure place. I am not buying a fly fishing rod. I'm not learning to fly fish. I celebrate that that's his. And I have my own hobbies. And it is very important to maintain that sense of self and you as the individual, knowing that that is so important to your own happiness and also to your ability to be a good partner.

Stephanie Rigg [00:39:55]:

Yeah, I completely agree. And I think the more that you can, if you're single at the moment, cultivate that really proactively and consciously and use that time when you do have more space to really figure that out for yourself. Because I think it's easy to fall into relationships and to get a little bit lazy and to kind of collapse into the relationship and kind of do everything together. It's like, figure that out while you're single. It's not that you can't do it while you're in a relationship, but it's a beautiful opportunity to figure that out while you're single and then be really aware of it and be really kind of diligent about keeping up those things. Because if for no other reason, then I think it's so rewarding on an individual kind of self level. But it's also much better for the relationship. It's much more attractive to have that separateness and to have distinctive lives rather than just to be kind of one entity again.

Stephanie Rigg [00:40:52]:

I think the insecure parts of us, particularly more anxious patterns, love that idea of just let's enmesh and become one, and then I'll feel safe because I'll have my claws sunk into you so deeply that I'll always know where you are, what you're doing, and I'll never lose you. Right? Yeah, but it's not sexy. Suck the oxygen out of it. Yeah. I think there's really a lot more to be gained from very deliberately fostering and holding on to that full, vibrant sense of self and then to be able to enjoy that in each other and appreciate that rather than becoming complacent and sloppy about those things.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:41:37]:

It's so true. Desire needs a bridge to cross, as Esther Perel says. We need that distance to be able to create desire. I say something much less sophisticated than that. I always say boundaries are hot. They really are. Boundaries are very attractive. So knowing what your boundaries are with your time and being able to maintain that no matter where you are in a relationship, I think that is one of the things that leads to healthy long term relationships.

Stephanie Rigg [00:42:15]:

Yeah, agreed. What would you say to people who are in the early stages of dating someone and who experience that urge to just fast track everything, to get to that place of certainty and kind of lock it down, because that in between space can feel really anxiety inducing, can feel really wobbly. What would be your advice for people who are in that kind of interim phase of dating?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:42:42]:

I definitely have a few pieces. One is something I call reality testing. It's something that's using cognitive behavioural therapy of slowing down and actually taking stock of what is the reality here. How much time have I spent with this person? What do I actually know about them? Given where we are, what is the appropriate emotional investment? And one way I like to really frame this is, is there enough secure attachment in the relationship? Aka, do I know this person well enough? Have they earned my vulnerability right? Has that been established enough to support the level of emotional investment? So sort of thinking about it as like the foundation of a house, if it's not there, then I can't build on it. And reminding yourself, you owe it to yourself to slow down. Let someone earn your vulnerability, let someone show you that they can build secure attachment and really pace your emotional investment.

Stephanie Rigg [00:43:59]:

Which can feel so counterintuitive for a lot of people, right? It's like the opposite of everything that their body's telling them to do, which is like, faster, faster, faster, faster. Let's jump ahead to the part where we've said I love you and we move in together and I don't have to deal with all of this uncertainty. But as you say, I think that skipping ahead can come at a cost because you're kind of building the walls without the foundation there, to use your analogy. And that typically comes back to bite you. You realise that you haven't really done the legwork to justify the level of emotional attachment and investment that you've poured into this thing. And then if it does crash and burn, it's going to hurt a lot more because we had so much riding on it, there was so much pressure on it, there was so much investment that was maybe just disproportionate to reality.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:44:57]:

Exactly. And think about yourself as an intentional investor. We'd say that with the stock market, it's no different with your relationships of, hey, I need to really know, is this right for me? And your energy, your time, your love, that is your most valuable resource. So really just seeing it as, hey, I really do need to be intentional with how I'm investing this. And just like in the stock market, we want return on investment in relationships. Is this creating secure attachment? Is this something that can grow? Do I feel how I want to feel? You need to be willing to slow down and be that love scientist that's gathering the data on those things. And yes, it is so hard when that's not what you're used to doing. It can feel so foreign.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:45:52]:

But remember, if you want a different result, you have to show up differently.

Stephanie Rigg [00:45:58]:

Yeah. And I think also just reminding yourself that that urgency is, that's not a reliable feeling. Right. And that's probably not what we want to be, just blindly following. I think for a lot of people it's like, but if I slow down, what if they lose interest? It's like, probably not going to happen. And if it does, then that wasn't the person.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:46:23]:

Right.

Stephanie Rigg [00:46:24]:

If it's that feeble and flimsy that you slowing down and pacing this appropriately means they lose interest, then that's really good information too. Not your burst. If it's as amazing as it feels, it will still be there at a more sustainable pace and it'll probably be all the more amazing for you slowing down and taking that time. But as you say, I think that when we're trying to forge a new path, we have to be really prepared to not just do things because we feel a certain way. Well, I feel this, so I have to act in that way. Well, you have a little bit more agency than that. And reminding yourself of your capacity to choose something different, as strong as the feelings might be and it might be so overpowering, so overwhelming. But just like grounding yourself, coming back, okay, as you say right here, right now, what do I know to be true? What choices do I have available to me? What's the right thing for me to do? And hopefully on the other side of that process of kind of reorienting and grounding, it feels a little more spacious and a little less burgeon and catastrophic.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:47:42]:

Absolutely. I love how you describe that. I think about this in real life of, okay, you have the decision, what would that securely attached version of me do? And they probably wouldn't send the 17 text messages. They would go to yoga with their friends like they had planned. Right. We always have that option of, how am I showing up? What am I aligning with? And I'll tell you this. I think some of the first times you start to slow down and intentionally decide how empowering that is and learning, oh, I can slow down. I don't have to let my anxious brain or my avoidant brain decide what I do.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:48:27]:

I can be intentional and decide differently.

Stephanie Rigg [00:48:30]:

Yeah. It's almost like knowing that your first thought is going to be probably coming from the old part and just, like, waiting for the second thought, slow it down and not just shoot from the hip, because there's a really good chance that that fear brain is going to be sending you down an old path that might not be where you want to be headed. So just knowing that about yourself, and I suppose it comes back to that self awareness, and that was a huge part of my journey and my growth is just like, being able to notice it being like, oh, that's my anxious brain telling me to do the anxious thing. And I don't have to follow that. I can actually choose something different. I think the more it's like doing reps of an exercise at the gym, the more reps you do, the easier it feels, the more confident you are in that being an option available to you. And over time, the new way feels more natural than the old way. And that's a really powerful thing to experience.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:49:31]:

It is. I love that you said that. That's so true. And I think early on it's hard to believe that, but we know that to be true, that it really can become your more natural way of being.

Stephanie Rigg [00:49:44]:

Thank goodness. I know. Thank goodness. It really is something for me when I think back to some of the things that I would do by default that now would be so unnatural, like in conflict or it's like I wouldn't reach for those things anymore. It's not how we do things, because I've actually got this new way that works a lot better for me and doesn't cost my system so much, and there's a lot of peace and relief in having that. So it's very important work.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:50:15]:

Yes, it is. Yeah. And wow, what a gift you've given to your community. I've had the pleasure of listening to your show, and I'm just amazed at how much you've put out there and how good you are at explaining everything and sharing. I know you've helped so many people on their healing path.

Stephanie Rigg [00:50:38]:

Thank you. I really appreciate that. And likewise, it sounds like you're doing a lot of really important work and much needed. I know that so many listeners of the show are very much in this space and experiencing a lot of those patterns and repeat dynamics. I'm sure there's a lot of people who are going to get a lot of value out of today's conversation. Before we wrap up, where can people find you if they want to go deeper on your work or familiarise themselves with your podcast, Instagram, all of that sort of stuff?

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:51:08]:

Yes. Thank you so much for having me. And really, the best place to connect with me is on my podcast. With over 400 episodes now, it's the let's get vulnerable podcast available anywhere podcasts are aired. And then I do also spend some time on Instagram, and that is at Dr. Morgan coaching. Dr. Morgan coaching.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:51:32]:

So happy to answer dms and I do a daily informational post there. But the podcast really is where all the juicy stuff is. So cheque out the let's get vulnerable podcast.

Stephanie Rigg [00:51:46]:

Perfect. And we will link all of that in the show notes. Well, Dr. Morgan, thank you so much. It's been such a pleasure. It's been so lovely to have you. Thank you so much for joining us.

Dr. Morgan Anderson [00:51:57]:

Thank you for having me.

Stephanie Rigg [00:51:59]:

This was lovely.

Stephanie Rigg [00:52:03]:

Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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How to Stop Comparing Yourself to Others | On Attachment | Ep 127

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In today's episode, we're talking all about comparison. Comparison is one of those things that we're all susceptible to at some point or another: we compare ourselves based on appearance, personality, success, relationships. It can sometimes seem like there's a neverending list of reasons to feel dissatisfied or inadequate when we look at our lives relative to someone else's.

And yet, while comparison is arguably a universal human experience, it's undeniable that some of us struggle with the comparison trap more than others - sometimes to the point where it feels debilitating and destructive to our sense of self.


The Power of Self-Worth: How to Stop Comparing Yourself to Others

Comparison - we all do it. Whether subconsciously or consciously, we find ourselves looking at others and assessing how we measure up. The urge to compare ourselves to those around us is deeply ingrained in human nature. However, this tendency can become a source of distress, leading to feelings of unworthiness, insecurity, and anxiety. In this episode of On Attachment, we delve into the universal experience of comparison and explore strategies to break free from its grasp and cultivate a greater sense of self-worth and confidence.

The Comparison Conundrum

From the moment we scroll through social media feeds to the interactions we have with colleagues and friends, the opportunities for comparison are endless. The modern world inundates us with a multitude of experiences, successes, and relationships from others, often leaving us feeling inadequate and perpetuating the illusion that everyone else is thriving while we are lagging behind.

The tendency to compare ourselves intensifies for individuals grappling with low self-worth. When we struggle to recognise and appreciate our own value, we are more prone to fixating on what we lack, as opposed to celebrating our strengths and unique attributes. This internal dialogue of not being good enough or not measuring up nourishes the cycle of comparison, perpetuating and reinforcing feelings of inadequacy.

The Antidote to Comparison

While overcoming the impulse to compare ourselves to others may seem daunting, the key lies in nurturing our self-worth. Building self-worth is not an overnight transformation but rather a progressive journey requiring patience, commitment, and self-compassion.

Embracing self-worth involves a conscious effort to acknowledge and appreciate our strengths, virtues, and contributions. It's about shifting the focus from what we lack to what we embody, recognising that our worth is not contingent on external validations.

Navigating the Relational Repercussions

The vicious cycle of comparison permeates into our relationships, influencing how we perceive and interact with others. Insecurity and low self-worth can manifest as jealousy, creating a perpetual state of suspicion and competition, even in the context of healthy relationships. The constant evaluation and comparison with others disrupt our ability to authentically connect and enjoy the company of others, leading to heightened anxiety and a sense of unease.

However, prioritising self-worth catalyses a transformative shift in our relational dynamics. By anchoring ourselves in a deep belief in our intrinsic value, we foster trust in ourselves and our relationships. This trust extends beyond external factors, allowing us to embrace our worth independently of others' opinions, strengthening our resilience and empowering us to set aside comparisons and build authentic connections rooted in mutual respect and understanding.

Overcoming the Comparison Trap

The pursuit of self-worth can pave the way to freedom from the comparison trap. By cultivating self-worth, we detach ourselves from the need for approval or validation from external sources. We begin to appreciate our inherent worth, paving the way for a more harmonious and fulfilling life. Furthermore, the ripple effect of enhancing our self-worth transcends comparison, extending to other facets of our lives, such as reducing the tendency to people-please and nurturing resilience in the face of adversity.

Escaping the comparison trap is not about eradicating awareness of others' achievements or experiences, but rather reframing our perspectives. It's about acknowledging others' journeys while steadfastly reaffirming our own unique path. By grounding ourselves in self-worth, we tap into a wellspring of confidence and assurance that empowers our relationships and allows us to experience life authentically and unencumbered by comparisons.

A Journey Towards Greater Self-Worth

The road to self-worth is a continuous, evolving process, requiring active engagement and commitment. While it involves confronting internal dialogues and navigating emotional complexities, the rewards are immeasurable. As we embark on this journey, we bask in the newfound freedom from the confines of comparison. We liberate ourselves from the suffocating weight of unworthiness and usher in a profound sense of self-compassion, confidence, and empowerment.

In conclusion, as we rally against the seductive pull of comparison, we fortify our resolve to cultivate our self-worth. Embracing self-worth is the catalyst for untethering ourselves from the allure of comparison, nurturing resilience, and fostering authentic, fulfilling relationships. It's a commitment to ourselves, a testament to our inherent value, and an affirmation of our individual narratives, unencumbered by the shadow of comparison.

Embracing Self-Worth

In the pursuit of self-worth, we shatter the confines of comparison, celebrating our intrinsic value and paving the way for a life characterised by authenticity, fortitude, and genuine connections.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. How do you personally struggle with comparison in your daily life? Do you find yourself caught in a pattern of comparing your life, achievements, or appearance to others? How does this impact your self-worth and relationships with others?

  2. How has the oversupply of information in today's culture affected your sense of self-worth and comparison to others? Do you feel pressured to measure up to the standards presented in social media and popular culture? How does this impact your mental well-being?

  3. Reflect on a time when you felt threatened or insecure in a relationship due to comparison with others. How did this affect your ability to authentically connect with your partner or potential partners? In what ways do you feel your insecurities may have impacted the relationship dynamic?

  4. Consider the role of building self-worth in mitigating comparisons. How can focusing on your own self-worth help reduce the impact of external influences and comparisons? In what ways can building self-worth positively impact your relationships with yourself and others?

  5. Have you noticed any patterns of performing, people-pleasing, or seeking validation in your relationships and social interactions? How do these patterns relate to your sense of self-worth and comparison with others?

  6. Reflect on your experiences with social anxiety. How does the fear of not measuring up to others affect your ability to authentically connect with people and form genuine relationships?

  7. What actionable steps can you take to reduce the impact of comparison in your life and relationships? How can you cultivate a sense of self-worth that allows you to embrace authenticity and self-acceptance, regardless of external comparisons?

  8. In what ways do you find yourself resisting the societal pressure to constantly compare yourself to others? How can you shift towards a mindset of opting out of the comparison game and embracing your own unique journey and strengths?

  9. Think about a time when you found yourself instinctively sizing yourself up against someone else. How did this impact your thoughts and emotions? How do you envision responding to similar situations in a more empowered and self-affirming way in the future?

  10. Consider exploring the concept of "enoughness" and how it relates to comparison and self-worth. How can you shift your mindset to embody a sense of being enough, independent of external comparisons and societal standards?



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Episode Transcript

[00:00:29]:

In today's episode, we are talking all about comparison and how we can stop comparing ourselves to others. So I think that this is a topic that, although it was inspired by a question I received on Instagram, it's so universal and so relatable for, I think all of us, whether this is something that you really, really struggle with or maybe you just experience a regular human amount as we'll come to shortly, I do think that this is something that we're all going to encounter at various points in our life. This tendency to compare, to look over our shoulder to see what other people are doing and to see where we stack up relative to that. I do think that it's a very natural tendency, but I also think that some of us definitely go down that vortex more than others and can get really stuck there. And particularly if you're someone who struggles with unworthiness or insecurity, anxiety, I think these can all go hand in hand. And not only does that impact our relationship with ourself, our self confidence, our self esteem, but it can really bleed into our relationships with others.

[00:01:41]:

Again, as we'll come to talk about, I think that there's a lot of overlap. If you were to do a ven diagram of people who struggle with comparison and low self worth, with people who struggle with anxious attachment, who struggle with jealousy, who struggle with a fear of abandonment, all of these things, I think that might not be so obvious in their relationship to each other. When we start to dig a little deeper, we can see how there's lots of tendrils and webs linking them all together. So I'm going to be talking about that today. Why some of us struggle with comparison more than others, where that might be coming from, what purpose is that serving, and ultimately how we can start to build a greater sense of self worth, self confidence, in a way that allows us to not become immune to comparison. Because, as I said, I think we all go there sometimes. I know I certainly do. But in a way that we can be broadly comfortable with who we are, with what we have to offer, with our value, such that we're not so heavily focused on what everyone else is doing and how everyone else looks and trying to figure out where we sit on that scale, because I think that's a pretty exhausting way to live and almost always leaves us feeling worse about ourselves or at least feeling very insecure.

[00:02:59]:

So that is what we're going to be talking about today. Before I dive into that, a quick announcement. I'm really excited to be launching a brand new offering. It's called the secure self and it's a 28 day challenge that's going to be kicking off next month. So just before Valentine's Day, it's a four week challenge. It's going to be all about a lot of what we're talking about today, building self worth. And each week we'll address a different pillar of self worth, a different focus area. It's going to be really accessible, both in cost.

[00:03:32]:

It's the lowest cost offering that I've had for a while, but also in its delivery. So I'm going to do audio only lessons so you can listen to it all on your phone. It's just going to be a short lesson each week and then a challenge or a homework task, something like that, an implementation piece. There's going to be a pop up community so you can connect with others who are doing the challenge, which is always a really nice component. And there'll also be two live calls with me, so there's a lot of value packed into it. It's a nice, short and sweet 128 days and I think it hopefully will appeal to people across the spectrum. No matter your attachment style, no matter whether you're new to my work or whether you've done everything I've ever released. This will be quite distinct in, as I said, both the content and the delivery, and I'm really looking forward to it.

[00:04:19]:

So early bird enrollment for that is open as of today and the early bird pricing will be available for the next week. So definitely head to the show notes and cheque that out if you're interested. Or you can go straight to my website, @stephanierigg.com and check out all the details, including some more info on each of the themes and stuff like that. So would love to see as many of you in there as possible. I think it's going to be really good fun. Okay, so let's talk about comparison. So as I said at the start, I think I'm always mindful when we talk about comparison or people pleasing or self criticism, any of these things that, of course can be really challenging, but also are very human. I don't want you to feel like you have to add that to the list of things that are wrong with you? Oh no.

[00:05:07]:

I compare myself to other people. Does that mean that's another thing that I need to fix about myself? Of course. We all do this, right? We do it subconsciously and maybe we do it very consciously. We're aware of other people's appearances or other people's success or other people's relationships. All of these things. I think that we are, whether it's innate or we are all just conditioned to do it. I think having an awareness of what other people are doing, how they're presenting, how they're living their lives relative to ours is pretty normal. I think where it can get really challenging is in this day and age when we have such an oversupply of information and exposure to so many different people and so many different information sources, relationships, all of these things, we're really bombarded.

[00:05:54]:

And so there's a lot to feel bad about. It can create this illusion and this sense that everyone else is thriving and I'm not. Or everyone else is beautiful and successful and charming and funny and I'm just average because obviously the data that we're getting is pretty skewed in that direction because that's what content is pushed to us. And so I think that while this tendency to compare ourselves is a very natural one, it's probably on steroids in our modern culture. Add to that, if you are someone who really struggles with low self worth I think that you're likely to be really prone to comparison. More so than someone who's pretty comfortable within themselves. And that maybe sounds obvious, but I think that when we really struggle with believing in our own value and really kind of knowing who we are and what we have to offer and really owning our strengths and our value proposition as a person going, yeah, I'm a great friend and people really like my sense of humour and I'm really good at my job and I'm smart and I'm loyal and all of those things, we don't tend to do that very often. We don't tend to take stock of those things and really reflect that back to ourselves because our tendency is to focus on the lack.

[00:07:13]:

Right? I'm not pretty enough, I'm not thin enough, I'm not successful enough, I'm not rich enough, I don't have the perfect relationship. And that's where our attention goes. And that's really where we then end up feeling pretty shitty about ourselves. That feeds it, right? The low self worth plants the seed or makes us prone or susceptible to that comparison, and then it kind of spirals from there because the comparison inevitably feeds the low self worth and so on and so forth. So I think if you know that about yourself, that you're already quite prone to comparison, that you have those struggles with self worth, that's just a really good thing to know and to recognise, because there's things we can do about that, right? Building self worth is not an overnight thing, but it's absolutely possible, and I can speak from personal experience that I definitely used to struggle with comparison a lot more than I do now. As I said, I'm not free of it now. It's not like I never fall into that trap, but I'm definitely less bothered by it, both on a personal level and certainly in a relationship. So I did mention that I kind of talk about the relational piece.

[00:08:17]:

And I think again, to use myself as an example, when I was younger, before I had done a lot of this work, I was pretty insecure. And I found it really easy to fall into that place of comparing myself, particularly to other women in the context of relationships, and feeling kind of subtly threatened by most other women, or even the women that I didn't feel threatened by. It was because I'd gone through a process of comparing myself to them and deciding that I didn't need to be threatened by them. But that was still in that mindset of assessing everyone as a competitor or a potential threat to how I felt about myself and how comfortable I felt in my relationship. And that was pretty exhausting, right? When I look back on that now, I can see that a lot of that was coming from a place of low self worth and not really believing in my value, thinking that everyone had something that I didn't, and really feeling that sense of not enough. I'm not enough of this, I'm not attractive enough, I'm not funny enough, I'm not cool enough, my clothes aren't as nice as that person. Like all of these little things that just kept me totally on edge and so uncomfortable within myself that I really didn't get to enjoy not only relationships, but kind of friendships and social settings. It just created this constant anxiety.

[00:09:45]:

Because I think when you are in that mode of sizing people up and assessment, it takes you out of presence. You don't get to just show up as yourself authentically and connect with other people as themselves authentically. You're always kind of in this mode of not inauthenticity, but performing and assessing and self protection. I don't think that that's really conducive to connecting authentically with others, which is really what we want. And frankly, it just kind of takes the fun out of it. I think for a lot of us who struggle with social anxiety, which is maybe something we need to do a whole nother episode on, because these days, more than ever, I think social anxiety is probably not talked about enough, but is so chronic and endemic that a lot of people have a really, really hard time with socialising, making friends, feeling confident in social settings, which has no doubt been exacerbated by a couple of years of isolation. But, yeah, I think that it feels really complicated, it feels really hard, it feels really intimidating. And the more that we are in this mindset of needing to prove ourselves and needing to show up in a certain way in order to be impressive or be likeable to perform, then that anxiety is only going to skyrocket because we put all this pressure on ourselves to be a certain way in order to achieve an outcome, rather than just being and letting that be enough.

[00:11:09]:

So what do we do with all of this? How do we stop comparing ourselves to others? Again, I think that there's probably always going to be this lingering thing where we are aware of what other people are doing and we might have a voice inside of us that does peer over our shoulder, peer over the neighbor's fence, so to speak, and see what other people are up to and how they are going, and how that stacks up against what we're doing, how we're going, how we're feeling, and either feeling temporarily better about ourselves because we assess ourselves as superior, or performing better, or ticking certain boxes that other people aren't. And so we get that kind of little ego boost, or we feel worse about ourselves because we've decided that they're ahead of us, or better than us, or superior to us. But either way, I think we're in that egoic kind of mindset that doesn't actually feed us at a deep level, it doesn't feel peaceful and it keeps us stuck in that. Because if you're in that hamster wheel, you kind of just have to keep playing it in order. Even if you are ahead, you've got to then stay ahead. Whereas I think stepping off the hamster wheel altogether and opting out of the game is probably a much more fruitful and rewarding way of being. So, all of that being said, it's kind of like all roads lead back to building your self worth. And I recognise that that's not like an easy, oh, great, I'll just go build my self worth and then everything will be resolved.

[00:12:38]:

That's a path and it's work and it's a process, right? A practise, we could call it. But it's a really rewarding one. And it's one that I talk about a lot, because I think that the ripple effect from focusing on building your self worth into all of these other areas of life, we can start to see that things like comparison, things like people pleasing, things like staying in relationships longer than we should, or pursuing relationships with people who are not really aligned or not really interested in us, these all kind of spring out from this place of low self worth. And when we start to work on that in a really committed and sustained way, we really make that a priority. It's amazing how organically all of these other things kind of fall away. They might not totally disappear, but they just become less relevant to us. They feel like less of a fit and comparison, I think, is one of them. Because ultimately comparison is trying to protect us, right? It's just feeding back information.

[00:13:40]:

Because a part of us is convinced that we're in competition with these people. And when that's the story that we're telling ourselves, then staying safe means winning. And so we feel like we have to do that and we have to kind of beat away all of the threats to our identity and our relationships. Whereas when we step out of that mindset and we really start to grow those seeds of self worth from the ground up, really within ourselves, then, as I said, all of those things just start to feel a little less important. And again, speaking from personal experience, things that I used to really, really struggle with in relationship, like jealousy was a big one. I was so aware of other women, even when there was nothing untoward, there weren't circumstances that warranted that. But I was inwardly just so wary of other women. I felt so threatened by them.

[00:14:32]:

And I really don't feel that anymore in my relationship because I trust in my value, I trust my partner, but I trust that even if anything were to happen, that that's not a comment on my worth. Because I really believe in my worth in a really embodied way. And I think that that's just quite profoundly healing to do that work and get to that place where it's not about never having wobly days, where you feel a little unsure of yourself or never having social anxiety. I certainly still don't like showing up to a room of people who, I don't know, that's not my comfort zone at all, but just feeling a little bit more anchored in who you are and letting that be okay and letting that be enough and knowing yourself and just kind of removing some of the heaviness of having to perform or emulate what other people are doing or copy other people or compete with other people. Because as I said, I think that that just is really, really draining. If nothing else, it's an exhausting way of living. And it's one of those things where insecurity begets more insecurity begets more insecurity. The downward spiral is real with all of those things because it really drags us down in our energy.

[00:15:51]:

But the inverse is also true. The upward spiral is possible and available to all of you if that's something that you're really committed to choosing and creating for yourself. And I should say I have other episodes. It's probably beyond the scope of today, just timing wise, but I do have other episodes on the how of building self worth. If that's something that you're more interested in diving into, you should be able to search that relatively easily and pull up those old episodes that give you a bit more of a roadmap on how you can start building self worth. I also have a free guided meditation on my website on building self worth, I should say. So you can go cheque that out. And of course, if you really want to go all in on this whole self worth thing, the secure self challenge will be starting in about a month, but the early bird pricing is available for the next week.

[00:16:38]:

So definitely go cheque it out if you're interested. If what I've shared today has resonated for you, as I said, my intention is for it to be a really fun, light hearted, enjoyable program for you to connect with each other, connect with me. So looking forward to that and looking forward to seeing hopefully lots of you in there. So thank you so much for joining me. I hope today's episode has given you something to think about. It's been helpful for you and I look forward to seeing you again next time. Thanks guys.

[00:17:10]:

Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again sooner.

 

 

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How to Live Courageously in 2024

For our last episode of the year, I'm sharing my own story about the power of choosing courage over comfort and making bold, scary, uncomfortable choices in the direction of the life that you desire. So many of us cling to familiarity and the known thing, even when it feels draining and deeply at odds with who we want to be and how we want our lives to look and feel.

As we say goodbye to 2023 and enter the new year, let us reflect on where we are still hiding or avoiding in our lives, and what might be possible if we embrace a bigger, bolder, braver life that we can truly be proud of.

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For our last episode of the year, I'm sharing my own story about the power of choosing courage over comfort and making bold, scary, uncomfortable choices in the direction of the life that you desire. So many of us cling to familiarity and the known thing, even when it feels draining and deeply at odds with who we want to be and how we want our lives to look and feel.

As we say goodbye to 2023 and enter the new year, let us reflect on where we are still hiding or avoiding in our lives, and what might be possible if we embrace a bigger, bolder, braver life that we can truly be proud of.

 

 

Embracing Courage in 2024

Courage is a trait often associated with grand acts of heroism or bravery. However, the courage to live authentically, make significant life changes, and pursue personal growth in the face of fear is equally, if not more, profound. As we stand at the threshold of 2024, it’s an opportune moment to reflect on the role of courage in our lives and how it can shape our experiences, relationships, and overall well-being.

Courage thrives in the space of authenticity. It’s about daring to be true to oneself, even when the road ahead seems uncertain and daunting. For many, the journey towards courage begins with a deep introspection, a willingness to acknowledge one’s fears, insecurities, and limitations. It involves peeling back the layers of societal expectations and personal doubts to uncover the authentic desires and values that fuel our ambitions.

It’s often tempting to remain in our comfort zones, surrounded by the familiar and the safe. However, the truest expressions of courage arise when we confront the uncomfortable. Despite external appearances that may project success, an individual may still feel empty, unfulfilled, and disconnected from their true selves. The realisation that the pursuit of comfort can sometimes lead to feeling profoundly uncomfortable within can be a catalyst for transformative change.

Fear is a natural and universal response to the unknown. Yet, it is also a barrier that can hinder personal growth and obstruct the path to creating a life aligned with one's aspirations. Many have encountered the paralysing grip of fear, particularly when contemplating making significant life changes. However, it’s within these moments of uncertainty that courage emerges. In 2024, it's essential to foster the courage to face fears, acknowledge their existence, and take steps forward despite them.

Courage grants us the gift of navigating the unknown with resilience and determination. Choosing the path of uncertainty requires a leap of faith, a belief in one’s ability to overcome challenges, and an acceptance of the inevitable setbacks. Stephanie’s experience demonstrates that embracing courage often leads to unexpected opportunities, personal growth, and a profound sense of gratitude towards oneself. The act of seizing control and forging a path aligned with one’s values and aspirations is a testament to the transformative potential of courage.

As we stand on the precipice of a new year, the message of embracing courage and intentionality resonates deeply. It serves as an invitation for individuals to carve a path towards a life overflowing with purpose, growth, and gratification. Recognising the presence of fear and choosing to explore the discomfort amidst a backdrop of convention and expectations can mark 2024 as a year of significant personal evolution and resilience. In 2024, the call to embrace courage and intentionality stands as an opportunity for transformative changes, a chance to redefine one’s narrative, and an invitation to navigate the year with an unwavering spirit of resilience and authenticity.


Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. How does the concept of courage resonate with you in your own life and relationships? Do you find yourself leaning towards the comfortable and familiar, or are you more inclined towards taking risks and embracing the unknown?

  2. Have you ever reached a point in your life where you felt deeply dissatisfied or unfulfilled, despite outward appearances of success? How did this impact your sense of self-worth and purpose?

  3. Reflect on a time when fear or insecurity held you back from making a change that you knew was necessary. What were the consequences of staying in the familiar, easy path versus embracing the courageous, but uncertain, option?

  4. In what areas of your life do you feel a deep yearning for something more or different? What steps can you take to honour those yearnings and move towards a life that aligns with your deepest values and desires?

  5. Think about a moment when you felt a sense of deep self-trust and inner alignment. What choices or actions led to this feeling, and how did it impact your overall well-being and satisfaction with life?

  6. Consider the role of external validation and societal expectations in shaping your life choices. How have these influences guided your decisions, and what might it look like to break free from their hold to pursue a more authentic path?

  7. Have you ever faced setbacks or challenges after choosing the courageous, less-travelled path? How did these obstacles impact your sense of self and your commitment to pursuing a life aligned with your values?

  8. What changes or choices have you been contemplating that align with your deepest desires and values, but also feel scary and uncertain? How can you begin taking steps towards embracing the unknown and making these changes a reality?

  9. Reflect on a time when you chose the easy or familiar path over the courageous and challenging one. What did you learn from that experience, and how has it shaped your approach to making difficult decisions since then?

  10. How do you envision your life looking a year from now if you were to wholeheartedly embrace courage and step into the unknown? What fears or obstacles might you need to overcome, and what support or resources could help you along the way?


 

 

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:25]:

Welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. Our last episode for 2023. As at the time of recording, it is the 31 December here in Australia at least, and I am wanting to talk to you today about courage and give you a little bit of a pep talk for 2024. I always find this time of year to be fertile ground for self reflection, for taking stock, and for setting intentions for the year ahead. Not so much in a cheesy resolution way of telling yourself that you're going to go to the gym every day, even though you know you aren't, or anything in that vein, but for deeper reflection, for getting really honest with ourselves around what's working and what isn't, where we are still hiding or withholding or letting fear drive us in our lives. And for me at least, courage and learning to practise courage and to embrace challenge and the unknown, all of that has been hugely formative in my own life and in getting me to where I am today, which when I look at the life that I am living, that I have created, that I continue to create both personally and professionally, I am really overcome with profound gratitude, both for everything that I have, but also towards myself. Because I know that a lot of what I am surrounded by today is a direct result of hard things that I turned towards rather than away from in years gone by.

[00:02:14]:

And so I wanted to share a little bit more of my own personal experience with courage and with fear and with doing scary things as a way to maybe inspire you, maybe aspects of my story will resonate with you in different ways, but hopefully to dispel the myth to the extent that you have some impression of me, that it's all been smooth sailing and easygoing, it absolutely hasn't. And my life hasn't always looked like it does now. Not to say that my life now is always smooth sailing, it absolutely isn't. But I am really deeply appreciative and joyful at the moment with everything that is going on for me. And I want you to feel like all that you desire, not necessarily the specifics of a checklist of things that you would need in order for your life to feel perfect. But if you're someone who feels like joy and peace and gratitude and fulfilling relationships like that's out of reach for you for some reason. I really want you to believe that that's not true. But it might take some courage, some bravery, some unknowns for you to move in the direction of the life that you really want and the life that you would be proud of.

[00:03:35]:

So let's rewind, say, five years, five years ago for me, some of you will know this. Many of you won't, I suspect, if you are newer to me, to my podcast. Five years ago, I was working as a corporate lawyer doing m and a, mergers and acquisitions. I was working ridiculously long hours. Actually found a photo in my camera roll the other day of me leaving work at like 04:30 a.m. In the lift. So that was what my life looked like. A lot of work, a lot of partying.

[00:04:14]:

When I wasn't working, I was in a really unhealthy relationship that was fueled by a combination of ego and low self worth. And as much as outwardly, it might have looked like I was ticking a lot of boxes. I had done really well in my high school exams. I'd gotten a scholarship to go to university. I'd studied for five years. I had an honours degree in law and a degree in political economy. I had travelled extensively. When I finished university, I had job offers from all of the top law firms in Sydney.

[00:04:53]:

It was really like my life was all laid out before me. And I tell you what, my ego really liked it. It's such a funny two sides of the same coin, I think. Ego and low self worth. I think the lower our deep sense of security, the more prone we are to being seduced by things that our ego likes. Those external validations, those approval seeking things. And for me, being courted by law firms and being good at my job, and I was really good at my job. All of that felt great in a sort of superficial, temporary, fleeting way.

[00:05:35]:

But when you don't have much of an internal anchor or a core sense of who you are and what you value and who you want to be, all of that stuff kind of gives you what you need, in a funny sort of way. So that was my life. And it, as I said, outwardly probably looked like I was doing okay. I was living in an apartment in the city and in many ways it was kind of aspirational looking. But inwardly I felt very, very empty. And I didn't like myself very much. I wasn't proud of who I was. And I felt a lot of shame often about how I would act.

[00:06:19]:

And I felt no sense of purpose, no sense of integrity, really. I couldn't say that I was proud of who I was or what I was doing with my life. Fast forward a little bit. And I was still in the same relationship. And it became increasingly clear to me that the way I was living my life was not sustainable. And I'm really grateful to my then self for having at least the self awareness or the willingness to look honestly at the way I was living and to acknowledge that I couldn't go on that way and that it wasn't enough for me. When I looked at people who I worked with, who were senior to me, who were 15 years ahead of me in their career trajectory, the sense of dread that I felt at my life being that in 510 or 15 years was overwhelming. And I had this really deep knowing of, if I don't make a change, if I just continue to do this, the easy thing, then I'm going to be really, really regretful later in my life.

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I'm going to be really, really disappointed in myself for not going after more, for going after something that actually allowed me to feel integrated and whole and peaceful. And it might sound a little bit funny to you, hearing all of that and me describing that as the easy thing, but in many ways it was. Even though on a day to day basis it wasn't easy. I was working ridiculous hours, I wasn't very healthy, I wasn't sleeping very much, I wasn't in a good relationship. And so while all of that kind of sounds hard, and in some ways it was, it didn't take any courage. Right?

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It was easy in the sense that it was familiar, and I could just do all of that on autopilot without challenging myself, without looking at the things that needed to be looked at within my own being. And so it was easy. It was a cop out, to be honest. It was definitely not doing anything courageous or challenging or expansive, physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually. And so it kind of reached a breaking point where I started to think about all of that really seriously. And I decided that I had to make a change. And it was then that I decided if I were to do anything, what would it be? And I've always, always loved learning myself personally about relationships and understanding people. And I think I've always had a natural kind of gift or inclination towards that.

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When I was first finishing high school and choosing what to study, it was always a toss up between law and psychology. And I don't know if this will be relevant to anyone outside of Australia, but there's a weird sort of trope where if you get the grades in your end of high school exams, then there's this pressure to make the most of them. And law required a very, very high grade, and I got the score for it. And so it was almost this thing of not wanting to waste my academic results on something that had a lower entrance bar. And so I did law instead of psychology. Maybe I shouldn't have done that. Maybe I should have gone straight into psychology, although I don't know that I'd be where I am today had I not walked the path that I walked. So I don't really have any regrets there.

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But anyway, I'd always had a really keen interest in that and I had studied it for a couple of years in high school as well. And so when I started to think about, okay, if it's not going to be what I'm doing, if I'm going to have some big career change, what's it going to be? And I decided that I wanted to teach people about relationships and help people with that. And I think, as is the case if you speak to coaches and therapists, so many people go into this work from some deeper yearning to understand themselves and to find some resolution of their own wounding, and there was definitely a layer of that for me. But I was so deeply fascinated by this work and ravenously consuming so much of it on a personal level, particularly owing to the relationship that I was in at the time, which was very challenging. And so even though it didn't really make much sense, and even though my ego was really scared and wanted me to stay on that very predictable, well worn path, that was a guarantee of success in a conventional sense, I made the decision to leave, to quit my job and to start from scratch. I enrolled in a coaching certification and I threw myself into learning everything that I could about relationships, about coaching as a methodology, about the nervous system, about sexuality and so many other things that kind of branch off all of that, and it was kind of terrifying, but it was also very thrilling. And I felt this deep sense of alignment and rightness for the first time in my life, well, certainly for the first time in many years at that point, and it didn't make sense to a lot of people. A lot of people thought that it was kind of rogue of me, and I suppose it maybe was that it was very unconventional, that it was very risky.

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I had a lot of people around me projecting their own fears and insecurities onto me of what if it doesn't work, and how will you know what to do? And how will you make money? How will you find clients? All of these things? And I didn't really have the answer to that, to be honest. I just had this sense of trust that I was going to figure it out and that it was going to be okay. And that wasn't a trust or an expectation that it was going to be easy, that it was going to be seamless or that it was going to be linear. But I did have this sense of rightness about it that allowed me to, I suppose, drown out a lot of that stuff that I was getting from people around me and just keep putting 1ft in front of the other. And so that's what I did. And it wasn't easy, but it was really thrilling. It was exhilarating. And even in those very early days, I felt this sense of total gratitude towards myself that I was taking steps in the direction of a life that I could be proud of.

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And not long after that, I also ended the relationship that I was in at the time. And I think a part of me knew that those things would probably go hand in hand, and that I kind of just needed maybe the confidence boost or needed to work on myself for a bit in order that I would be ready to leave that relationship, even though I knew deep down that I needed to and that that had to happen. And fast forward. I say fast forward as if that all happened very quickly and easily. But fast forward to now. And I've built this incredible business helping people all over the world by sharing my own story, my own insights, the things that I've learned, having taught and worked with thousands of people through coaching, through my online programmes. So many really beautiful things have happened since making that decision in the direction of the life that I wanted, through choosing courage rather than the comfortable or easy thing, and really deciding that I wanted to close the gap between my values and the way I was living. Because that gap was pretty big for a while there and it didn't feel good.

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It felt really, really deeply uncomfortable. And I felt so much shame and lack of self respect in a way that was very, very uninspiring and heavy and really dragged me down. And so I suppose I share all of that a to give you a bit more of a background to my story, in case you weren't familiar, but also maybe to inspire, because it's not about telling everyone that you need to go and quit your job, but I think for those of you, and you'll know if you're hearing this, I think you'll know if I'm talking to you. I think for those of us who feel that pull, feel that little nudge from within, that whisper saying, there's more, right? There has to be more. If life feels uninspiring or small, or like there's something big tugging at you and calling you forward, I think to ignore that voice and to keep ourselves cloistered or imprisoned by fear or convention or expectation, whether ours or someone else's, there is no grief greater than that. To silence that voice within that's telling us to be bold, to be creative, to take risks, to build a life that we're really proud of. And so if you're listening to this and that is you, and you know that there's something. You know that you're on the brink of change and you're standing at a fork in the road, and there's the easy, low risk, comfortable, familiar thing, and then there's the scary thing that excites you and that feels expansive and inspiring, and that your whole being lights up just to think about it, just know that you will very, very rarely, if ever, regret doing the courageous thing.

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And I deeply believe that to be true. Because even if it doesn't work out as you planned, even if there are bumps in the road and setbacks, and there will be. There will be setbacks, you will fall off the horse. But the sense of inner peace, alignment, unity, freedom that you get from backing yourself and from trusting yourself and from honouring what is true for you, your desires, your yearnings, that is something that is so precious. And so I really do think that it's very, very hard to regret making a choice that is based on that, based on your values, based on your deep yearnings and desires, based on what you feel is deeply true for you. So I hope that this has given you something to reflect on and think about as we close out 2023 and we turn over a new leaf, turn over a new page and enter 2024 with all of its possibilities and unknowns. Just know that it's what you make it and it is a blank page. And that's not to say that you need to overhaul your life in order to be good or doing the right thing, or valuable or worthy, or any of that.

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But as I said, for those of you who know that this message is for you, I really, really encourage you to go for it, whatever that looks like for you. Maybe it's leaving a job, maybe it's taking a job, maybe it's leaving a relationship. Maybe it's starting a relationship, maybe it's starting therapy. Maybe it's joining a gym, maybe it's committing to getting strong, moving your body, or changing your habits. All of these things that you know are waiting for you. And you know that the life that you desire is on the other side of those commitments and those choices and those steps. Take the steps. Give that gift to yourself.

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When you know that your agency and your self discipline and your showing up is the only thing really standing in the way of you and the future self that you really want to become. Please do yourself the honour. Give yourself the gift of being brave and being courageous, of no longer hiding, no longer playing small, no longer saying that you can't, no longer having a lack of faith in yourself because it's in your hands. 2024 is just around the corner. So really think about that and get intentional about what you want to create this year and how very different your life could look a year from now. So I'm sending you so much love on this, the 31 December, and so much gratitude again for your support of the podcast and my work this past year and more broadly. It is in large part thanks to you that I feel so very overjoyed and grateful and proud of the life and the work that I find myself surrounded by. So thank you for your part in contributing to that sense of pride and satisfaction that I'm able to feel into as I look around and take stock.

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I'm wishing you the most beautiful, safe, peaceful, restorative new year, and I look forward to seeing you on the other side. Thanks guys.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again soon.

 

 

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What is Emotional Availability?

In today's episode, we're talking all about emotional availability. Emotional availability is one of those terms that is thrown around a lot on social media - and it seems like everybody is on the lookout for the "emotionally unavailable" people that are to be avoided at all costs. But as always, I think it's important to approach these conversations with nuance and curiosity, before slapping labels on others and declaring them to be the problem. As we discuss in this episode, our focus on others' emotional unavailability can often mask the parts of us that are hiding behind inauthenticity.

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In today's episode, we're talking all about emotional availability. Emotional availability is one of those terms that is thrown around a lot on social media - and it seems like everybody is on the lookout for the "emotionally unavailable" people that are to be avoided at all costs. But as always, I think it's important to approach these conversations with nuance and curiosity, before slapping labels on others and declaring them to be the problem. As we discuss in this episode, our focus on others' emotional unavailability can often mask the parts of us that are hiding behind inauthenticity.


Emotional availability is a crucial concept in modern relationships, especially in an era dominated by social media. It refers to an individual's emotional maturity, ability to articulate feelings, openness to honest conversations, and capacity to express themselves authentically without resorting to games or misleading behaviors. This definition underscores the importance of authenticity, emotional maturity, and genuine connections in relationships.

What is Emotional Availability?

Emotional availability is often discussed in the context of dating and relationships. It's a term that encapsulates the ability to be present and engaged in a relationship emotionally. An emotionally available person is someone who is capable of sharing their feelings, understands and respects their partner's emotional needs, and is willing to be vulnerable. This characteristic is essential for building a deep, meaningful connection with others.

The Importance of Self-Reflection

It's critical to consider your own emotional availability. Self-reflection helps in understanding why one might be attracted to individuals who exhibit traits of emotional unavailability. By exploring our behaviors and tendencies, especially in the context of anxious attachment patterns, we can identify and address issues like people-pleasing and approval-seeking. This awareness is vital for personal growth and healthier relationships.

Recognising Emotional Unavailability in Anxious Attachment Patterns

Emotional unavailability can often manifest in anxious attachment patterns. This might involve performing, shapeshifting, and constantly seeking validation, driven by a fear of being unlovable. Such behaviors often lead to presenting a curated persona, hindering the ability to form genuine connections. Emotional unavailability, in this context, stems from a lack of authenticity and honesty.

Accepting Authenticity and Vulnerability

Embracing authenticity and vulnerability is fundamental in relationships. Genuine connections require individuals to be true to themselves, without resorting to a curated version for validation or control. This approach fosters meaningful connections and establishes trust, leading to more fulfilling and sustainable relationships.

Embracing Change and Growth

Showing up as your true self, even at the risk of rejection, is essential for attracting and cultivating relationships with emotionally available partners. It's about embracing your entirety without the need for performance or inauthenticity. In summary, understanding and embracing emotional availability is key to developing genuine, meaningful relationships. Through self-reflection, embracing authenticity and vulnerability, and being open to change and growth, individuals can foster deeper connections based on mutual emotional availability. This journey towards emotional maturity not only enhances personal well-being but also enriches our relationships with others.


Questions for Reflection & Discussion

1. What do you think emotional availability means to you after listening to the episode? How does it differ from your previous understanding, if at all?

2. Stephanie mentions the importance of emotional authenticity and maturity in relationships. Do you think you are emotionally available to your partners or friends? Why or why not?

3. How do you think emotional availability impacts the dynamics of a relationship? Do you agree with Stephanie's perspective that it's more fruitful to start within ourselves when it comes to emotional availability?

4. Is there a particular instance in your life where you found yourself attracted to emotionally unavailable people?

5. Stephanie talks about anxious attachment patterns and the tendency to shapeshift in relationships. Have you ever experienced this behaviour in yourself or others?

6. How do you feel about the concept of "performing" in relationships? Do you think this is a common behavior, and if so, how does it affect emotional availability?

7. Stephanie talks about the inherent discomfort in receiving emotional availability when one is accustomed to not receiving it. Have you ever experienced a similar discomfort in your own life? How did you handle it?

8. Stephanie discusses the toll of inauthenticity and its impact on relationships. Can you identify instances in your life where inauthenticity affected your relationships, and if so, how did you navigate this?

9. Stephanie emphasises the importance of trust and being fully oneself in a relationship. What steps do you think you can take to build this trust and authenticity in your own relationships?


 

 

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Episode Transcript

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In today's episode, we're talking all about emotional availability or emotional unavailability. I think that this is one of those terms and one of those concepts that's thrown around a lot, particularly in the world of instagram and social media more broadly when we're talking about dating and red flags and what to look for and building healthy relationships. And I think that's with good reason. But I also think it's really important, as always, to approach these sorts of big labels with a level of nuance and articulating.

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What does it really mean when we're talking about emotional availability? What are we looking for in other people? And I would argue, more importantly, what does that look like within us? Because I think it's really easy to focus on the ways in which someone else might be, quote unquote, emotionally unavailable and almost distract ourselves with all of their shortcomings and everything that we want them to change, while overlooking the ways in which we might be exhibiting certain signs of emotional unavailability, albeit maybe taking a different form. I think that a lot of the time the trope of the unavailable person is someone who is more avoidant and aloof and hot and cold and you can't really seem to crack them and you don't know what's what. And so while if you're more anxious leaning, you might not fit that description, I think there are some less obvious ways that we can ourselves be emotionally unavailable and in so doing can prevent the kind of deeper, more authentic connection that we really crave. So I'm going to be sharing some thoughts on that today. Before we dive into that, a quick announcement that Healing Anxious Attachment is still open for registration. We had the Black Friday sale over the weekend, which has now ended, but you are still able to join at the usual early bird price. All of that is on my website. For those who are interested, we've got just shy of 300 people in the past week or so, which is just amazing.

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And it's always so gratifying for me to see people coming into the programme and feeling so much optimism and so much commitment to really making some changes in their blueprint when it comes to relationship to self and others. So if that feels like something that you would like to take steps towards, I'd love to see you inside the programme. And as I said, all of that should be relatively easy to find on my website. Okay, so let's dive into this conversation around emotional availability. So I think it's useful to frame the discussion by asking, what do we mean when we talk about emotional availability, I think it probably means different things to different people, as I said, because it's a term that's tossed around so liberally. I think everyone's probably got their own version of what that means when they are talking about emotional availability or unavailability. But what I think of this term as meaning is someone who is mature emotionally, who's able to articulate themselves, who's open to having conversations with other people when it comes to not only emotions but anything else that might arise concerns, boundaries, those sorts of things. Someone who is authentically themselves, who isn't playing games, who isn't misleading, who isn't performing.

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Someone who you feel really comfortable with because you feel like you're connecting with that person in their true expression, rather than feeling like there's facades and there's masks and tricks and games which are not always coming from a place of malice or an intention to manipulate. But I think when we lack internal security, we resort to all sorts of tactics to try and win over people's approval or present a certain version of ourselves. And as I'll come to shortly, I think that we can fall prey to those sorts of tactics no matter where we sit on the spectrum. We can engage in those things as a way to create a semblance of comfort, confidence, safety for ourselves, even if ultimately it's kind of trapping us in something that isn't truly authentic. So I think that that's really the essence of it for me is that emotional availability is authenticity and emotional maturity. So I think that when we have this conception of the person, I think it's most often used in the context of dating. Although of course, emotional availability is relevant and important in any relationship, romantic or not. I think that it most often comes up in the context of dating.

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And it's like, how do I spot someone who's emotionally unavailable so I can avoid them like the plague and save myself the trouble? And I think that again, I understand the desire to steer clear of people who maybe aren't in the same place as you or don't want the same things as you or don't have the capacity that you seek in. A partner in terms of having that deeper connection and that emotionality and vulnerability between you that allows you to really feel like you can trust them. But what I think is much more interesting than listing out traits of things to avoid in other people, as you guys would know if you've followed my work for a while and listened to the podcast. I think the much more illuminating analysis is what is it within me that feels attracted to that in the first place? Because it's really easy. I've done an episode on this before and the reasons we might be attracted to unavailable people. And I think that it's really easy to kind of throw up our hands and say everyone's so emotionally unavailable. And I'm not. The problem doesn't lie with me.

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It's everyone else in the dating pool who's the problem. And I just need to sharpen my tools in terms of avoiding the bad people and then all my problems will be solved. And if only it were that simple. I think that what we really need to get honest about is there's something within me that is attracted to that or that feels some sense of comfort in the dynamic of chasing the unavailable person, of performing, of gameplaying, of tiptoeing around that, of trying to earn the love and approval of someone. And I think that we have to see that within ourselves and get really curious about it because that comes with its own form of emotional unavailability, right? This is really speaking more to the anxious experience because as I said, I think that the stereotype of the emotionally unavailable person is someone who's more kind of classically, typically avoidant. But I think emotional unavailability in the context of more anxious attachment patterns tends to manifest as performing as shapeshifting, like being a mirror for someone else. If they say that they like something, you quickly agree and say you like it too. Or if they want to do something, you agree and you acquiesce and you just follow someone else's lead all the time and kind of lose yourself in the process.

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And of course we know that that can come from a lot of different things of really just wanting to be chosen or feeling like being low maintenance is the way to be loved. And that to be difficult is to be unlovable. All of those things that we've talked about before on the show. But the reality is that when we conceal so much of ourselves, when we bury so much of ourselves or subdue certain parts of us that we fear are unworthy of love or unacceptable or make us difficult, we're not being emotionally available either because we're not being authentic, we're not being honest. We're presenting a very carefully crafted, curated view of us that we think is going to be the ticket to kind of controlling for an outcome. And oftentimes that outcome is being chosen and having someone love us and not doing anything that could possibly jeopardise the connection. But when we do that, we are inadvertently jeopardising the connection because we're not authentically being there. We're not showing up as our true selves, we're not maybe advocating for ourselves, we're not just being forthcoming with how we're feeling something that might be bothering us.

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All of that is part of emotional availability as well. And so I think it's really important to see how these things interface with each other and that while it is really much easier to just point the finger at someone who's unavailable in more obvious ways, we can say, what do you mean? I'm available all the time. I'm always available if you want to hang out with me, how could you be calling me emotionally unavailable? I have big emotions. I think there's a little more to it than that. And I think that if we return to at least how I think of emotional availability as being honesty, authenticity and emotional maturity and all the things that flow from that, I think we can see that maybe we are attracted to and attracting people who maybe mirror where we are at in terms of our own emotional availability. And so it might be useful and enlightening to kind of reflect on that and go okay, maybe I'm getting back what I'm putting out and start there. Always starting there I think is a good idea, starting with ourselves because it can be. We were having a conversation in my small group coaching programme earlier today and someone was sharing that their partner is really showing up and it's quite daunting because she is really accustomed to burying needs or working really, really hard to just get scraps of attention from someone or scraps of validation.

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And it can actually be quite disconcerting or quite foreign to your system. When you are met with someone's availability and consistency and care and attention and support, all of a sudden your system might sort of reject it and push it away and go I don't know how to receive that because I'm so accustomed to not receiving that and to fighting for it only to be disappointed. And there's some sort of weird familiarity in that dynamic and it leaves me feeling really out of my depths when all of a sudden someone is available. And I think that often it's in those situations that we are shown our own work because we might all of a sudden feel a lot of resistance coming up, feel that all of a sudden we have nowhere to hide. And that's really scary. If we've always blamed the other person for the lack of connection or the lack of depth or the lack of commitment and all of a sudden they're showing up with depth and connection and commitment and then we're pushed to go okay, well, who am I going to be in response to that? Am I ready for those things? Am I ready to be seen and known? Because when we haven't had that in the past, it's a really, really scary thing and it really raises the stakes. It's, as I said, in a weird sort of way, much more comfortable to just sit in the dissatisfaction and kind of lament the fact that someone won't change but all the while being comforted by the fact that they're the problem and it's not us. So all of that to say, I think that in this conversation around emotional availability, it helps to broaden the lens on what that means and what that can look like and what the converse emotional unavailability.

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How that can show up in ways that we might not typically associate with emotional unavailability in the more common sense of avoidance and associated behaviours. And going, oh, is my lack of authenticity in terms of my people pleasing and my approval seeking and my tiptoeing and my strategizing and all of those little things that I do behind the scenes to try and control for the outcome that I want. Maybe that's emotional unavailability too, and maybe that's blocking some of the connection that I really crave. So maybe my freedom and my relief and a new way of being in relationships requires me to change the inputs on my side of the equation and to kind of lay down some of those old strategies and take the brave steps towards showing up more authentically and trusting that if that does yield to the worst case scenario that our fear would have us believe, if we show up authentically and honestly and we stop curating this perfect version of ourselves that we think will be the lovable version, and we just allow ourselves to be enough. If someone leaves in response to that, well, I think that that's kind of a blessing in disguise, because otherwise you're locked into a lifetime of performance and a lifetime of inauthenticity, and that's a really, really tiring game to play. So I think that there's a lot to be said for just trusting that for the right person or people, you, all of you, it's going to be enough. In fact, it's going to be delightful and lovable and wonderful and that someone who is themselves emotionally available and who has done that work is going to be ready for all of it and is going to have realistic expectations about what it means to be in a relationship. And you don't have to bury parts of yourself or feelings or fears or insecurities, you don't have to try and hide that from someone in order to trick them into loving you.

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As I said, that's a really exhausting way to be in relationship and I think it's one that sooner or later really catches up with us and tends not to give us what we really desire, which is safety in relationships. So I hope that that has been helpful given you something to think about when it comes to emotional availability. And as I said, of course we can look out for that in other people, but I think it's always more fruitful to start within and start with ourselves and the way we're showing up and watch that ripple out. So thank you so much for joining me, I'm so grateful for all of your support. The spotify wrapped, year in review stuff has come out today and I'm being tagged by so many beautiful people who have been staunch supporters of the show and I've seen some amazing statistics on my side, people listening all over the world and I'm just eternally grateful always for your support. So thanks for being here and I look forward to seeing you again next time. Thanks guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment.

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If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again soon. It's.

 

 

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Am I People-Pleasing or Just Being Nice?

In today's episode, we're talking all about people-pleasing: what it is, why we do it, and how it's different to "just being a nice person". For many of us, people pleasing is second nature. We are so accustomed to accommodating others and burying our own feelings and needs that we don't even realise we're doing it.

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In today's episode, we're talking all about people-pleasing: what it is, why we do it, and how it's different to "just being a nice person". For many of us, people pleasing is second nature. We are so accustomed to accommodating others and burying our own feelings and needs that we don't even realise we're doing it. 

Unfortunately, this typically leads us to feel disconnected, lonely and exhausted - not to mention it usually backfires insofar as building healthy relationships is concerned.

The Difference Between People-Pleasing and Being Kind

Relationships play a crucial role in shaping our lives, and the way we attach to others can greatly impact our experiences. In today's fast-paced world, the topic of people-pleasing frequently comes up in conversations about relationships and self-awareness. People often wrestle with the question: "Am I a people pleaser or just a nice person?" This internal conflict can lead to confusion and anxiety, creating a need for clarity.

Understanding People-Pleasing:

People-pleasing is more than just being kind or considerate. It is a learned strategy aimed at gaining control and ensuring safety in relationships. It involves micromanaging interactions, opinions, and emotions to maintain approval and acceptance. When people-pleasing becomes ingrained in our behaviour, it can lead to a loss of self-identity and a disconnect from our authentic desires and values.

Effects of People-Pleasing:

The constant need to please others can leave us feeling exhausted, as we portray a version of ourselves that is not entirely genuine. We might find ourselves trapped in a facade, unable to break free from the expectations we have set. Alternatively, if our attempts at people-pleasing don't yield the desired results, we can be overwhelmed by feelings of failure and disappointment. Moreover, the prolonged focus on catering to others can leave us with a deep sense of loneliness, as we lose touch with our own needs and values.

Differentiating Kindness from People-Pleasing:

Kindness, on the other hand, stems from a place of authenticity and empathy, rather than being a calculated strategy. A genuinely kind person does not seek to control outcomes or seek validation through their actions. True kindness is not burdened by the fear of disapproval or rejection. It exists without an agenda or the need for external validation. When we address the underlying fears and wounds that drive people-pleasing tendencies, we can connect with our kindness in a more authentic and liberated manner.

Recognising the Human Experience:

It's important to remember that occasional instances of adapting to social dynamics or seeking approval are part of the human experience. We all engage in these behaviours from time to time, and it's natural to adjust our behaviour in different social contexts. However, the concern arises when these adjustments become the primary way we navigate the world, and we lose touch with our genuine selves.

Embracing Authenticity:

Embracing authenticity and asserting our true selves may initially feel uncomfortable, especially if we have been entrenched in people-pleasing patterns for a long time. It requires making peace with the fact that not everyone will like us, and that's okay. Accepting this reality grants us the freedom to express ourselves genuinely, without the need for external validation or control. It offers a path to self-discovery and a deeper connection with others.

Healing and Growth:

At the core of addressing people-pleasing tendencies is the need to tend to the underlying wounds and fears. This process involves showing compassion and understanding to the parts of ourselves that yearn for approval and fear rejection. By acknowledging and nurturing these vulnerable aspects, we can embark on a journey of healing and personal growth.

Moving Forward:

Recognising the distinction between people-pleasing and kindness empowers us to navigate relationships and interactions with greater authenticity. It allows us to form genuine connections with others and fosters a deeper sense of self-awareness. Embracing our authentic selves provides a profound sense of liberation and opens the door to more meaningful and fulfilling relationships.

Conclusion:

The journey from people-pleasing to genuine kindness is a transformative one. By cultivating awareness of our behaviours and motivations, we can release the grip of people-pleasing tendencies and embrace a more authentic way of relating to others. It's a journey that requires courage, self-compassion, and a willingness to explore and nurture our true selves. As we embark on this journey, we can create deeper connections, reclaim our sense of identity, and experience the profound freedom that comes with embracing authenticity.

 

 

Questions for Discussion & Reflection

  1. Do you find yourself often trying to please others in your relationships? How does this impact your sense of self?

  2. Are you aware of any underlying fears or wounds that may drive your people-pleasing behaviours? How can you tend to these underlying emotions?

  3. Reflect on a time when you felt the need to constantly shape-shift or contort yourself to fit in or avoid conflict. How did this impact your sense of authenticity and self-worth?

  4. Have you ever felt the pressure to earn approval and validation from others at the expense of your true self? How did this make you feel, and what underlying emotions might be at play?

  5. Consider a situation where you felt the need to hide or suppress parts of yourself in order to be accepted by others. How did this impact your ability to form genuine connections and relationships?

  6. Have you ever felt burnt out or resentful due to constantly seeking approval and validation from others? How did this affect your mental and emotional well-being?

  7. Reflect on a time when you felt afraid of not being liked or approved of by others. What underlying wounds or fears do you think might be contributing to this fear?

  8. Have you ever felt like you were performing for others rather than being your true self? How did this impact your confidence and self-awareness?

  9. Do you struggle with the concept of self-trust and asserting yourself in relationships? How can you work on building trust in your own intuition and authenticity?

  10. In what ways can you cultivate a greater sense of authenticity and self-worth, free from the need for constant approval and validation from others?


 

 

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Episode Transcript

[00:00:04]:

In today's episode, we are talking all about people pleasing. So this is a topic that I've touched on before on the show and is one that I'm sure a lot of people can relate to. It's one of those terms that I think bounces around so much in the world of Insta therapy and lots of online content.

[00:00:53]:

But I'm prompted to talk about this today by a question that I received on Instagram yesterday, which was, how do I know if I'm a people pleaser or if I'm just a nice person? And I thought it was a good question because for a lot of people I think it can be a little confusing. And something I see all the time is this tendency to almost police our own behaviours and worry that, oh, am I being empathetic because I'm empathetic, or am I being empathetic because I'm manipulative or self sacrificing? And I think we can almost create more anxiety for ourselves because we don't have clarity around what the difference is and what distinguishes one thing from another. And I think, spoiler alert, it's rarely that we're one or the other. It's not that people pleasing means you can't be a nice person. People pleasing is just one of many strategies that you might have picked up along the way, as a way to keep yourself safe, as a way to navigate relationships when you didn't know any better. But as with so many of these subconscious patterns and strategies, they can follow us through life and they can become part of our identity, or at least so second nature, that we actually don't know what the alternative looks like. It feels so foreign to us to do things differently. And so, as always, I'm hoping that by shining a bit of a light on that and cultivating more awareness of what distinguishes people pleasing from just being a nice person and how you can maybe release the grip on some of those people pleasing behaviours and start to tend to the underlying wounds that drive those behaviours, then you are free to be your kind, generous, loving self without an agenda or without strings attached.

[00:02:50]:

And I also think that when we stop with the people pleasing all the time, it allows us to form far more genuine connections. Because when we're people pleasing much of the time, we're pretending. And it's hard to form an authentic relationship when you're not really letting someone see you, when you are just mirroring back to them what you think they want to hear or who you think they want you to be. So that's what we're going to be talking about today. Before I dive into that quick announcement, that healing anxious attachment you've probably heard me share over the past week or two, healing anxious attachment is coming back next week, just in time for Black Friday. There's already about 1300 people on the waitlist, which is wonderful. Those on the waitlist are going to get access to the Black Friday sale, which is the lowest price I've offered the course at since the very first round I ever ran of the programme over 18 months ago. So if you're at all interested, now is a really good time.

[00:03:53]:

If maybe you've been on the fence previously, if the timing hasn't been right, maybe it's been a bit of a stretch. Financially, this round is a really great one to join because it is just that little bit more affordable. And I'm also including some exciting bonuses like a live Q and A with me. Ordinarily that has been a paid upgrade, but this time I'm including it for everybody. So if you're interested, the link to join the waitlist is in the show notes, or you can head directly to my website and you should be able to find that. Okay, so let's dive into this conversation around people pleasing. So, as I said in the introduction, I think that people pleasing is a strategy. And I think it's mostly a strategy to feel more in control.

[00:04:41]:

That somewhere along the way we learned that keeping ourselves safe meant micromanaging our relationships, micromanaging other people's opinions of us, micromanaging other people's emotions, and that it was our responsibility to work really hard to do that by saying, by deferring to what other people want, what other people think, what other people expect, adopting their opinions as our own, going with the flow all the time, even when it doesn't really work for us, saying yes, when we may know all of these things that I think really can lead to an abandonment of self and really a loss of self. And you would know, if you've listened to the podcast for a while, that I think that disconnection with self is really at the heart of anxious attachment. Oftentimes we think that if I can just prioritise the relationship and keep the relationship intact and give of myself incessantly to this person, this relationship, then that's all I need. That's what's going to keep me safe. That's what's going to make me happy, then I'll be okay. But the way that we go about this can really lead us astray. Because not only as I alluded to in the introduction, does it actually make it much harder to connect with someone in any authentic way. When we're adopting all of these masks, when we are contorting ourselves, when we're shapeshifting, when we're one person one day and another person the next day, when we're subduing certain parts of ourselves and then amplifying parts of ourselves that maybe aren't very true to us all in this effort, this tireless effort to be liked, to be approved of, to be accepted, to belong, I think that it's really, really exhausting.

[00:06:43]:

And what I often see happen is you'll either end up in this scenario where it works, so to speak, in that you get the validation and the approval that you're seeking by playing that game. But then that means that you're kind of locked into that, right? You're locked into the facade. It's sort of like if you tell a lie and then you get stuck in it and you've just got to keep perpetuating it on and on because that's the representation that you've made and you're kind of stuck with it. I think the same can be true when we are pretending in our relationships, when we're not being fully honest or authentic in the way that we represent ourselves. And so I think either it works and you're trapped in the falsehood of being someone that you aren't, or it doesn't work in that the person that you're trying to impress, the person whose love you're trying to earn, doesn't want you or rejects you or doesn't approve of you in the way that you would hope. And then you feel like a failure because you've convinced yourself that it's your job to make them feel a certain way about you and that that's within your control to engineer that outcome. And I think that that's really an illusion that we have that much control. My therapist always says that you're less powerful than you think in the context of when you are someone who thinks that you can orchestrate all of those things and manage everyone's emotions and control the way everyone thinks.

[00:08:15]:

About you. I think sometimes it's a good reminder you're not that powerful. Right? So good to be humbled in some ways, when we notice ourselves going into those patterns of thinking that it is our job to manage all of that. Because, as I said, it's really exhausting and often leaves us feeling empty and like a failure. And to make matters worse, we don't really know who we are because we've spent such a long time in that mode of flip flopping and just trying to make everyone else happy. And we don't even really know who we are, what we want, what we think, what we feel. And there's a real grief that comes with that, a real loneliness that comes with not knowing yourself. I've said before, much of the time when I work with anxiously attached folks, and part of the work will be to get clearer around your values, your needs, your wants.

[00:09:13]:

And most of the time people are really stumped because they've never really thought about it. All they've ever done, all they've ever known is to mirror the wants, needs, values of the people around them, to adopt those things as their own, as a way to fit in or to not rock the boat and not be difficult, because we've absorbed some sort of message that to be different is to be difficult, and to be difficult is to be unlovable. And I think that, again, that makes a lot of sense, if that's been your story. But as with so many of these patterns, it's really important to recognise that whatever environment we were in that gave rise to those patterns. We're not there anymore. And we are adults with choice and responsibility, and we don't have to keep operating on the same painful autopilot that has gotten us to where we are. We can learn a new way, even if it's uncomfortable. And it will be uncomfortable to contemplate the possibility of asserting yourself, of advocating for yourself, of disagreeing with someone and maybe having them think poorly of you.

[00:10:32]:

Making your peace with the fact that not everyone will like you, and that you can't control that if you want to be yourself. I think that there is a real freedom that comes with that, once you can make your peace with it, but it is, as a starting point, really uncomfortable if that's not been your way. I know a lot of people really can't tolerate the idea that someone's angry at them, that someone's disappointed in them, that someone thinks they're rude. Any of these things can feel really threatening to your whole identity, your whole sense of self, which is crafted on being nice and easy going and not causing a fuss, not rocking the boat. If that's been really fundamental to how you identify yourself, then the idea of departing from that can be really uncomfortable. But often it's part of the journey. Now to return to the original question, which was, how is this different to just being a nice person? I think essentially just being a nice person, just being kind, being generous, being loving, being authentic. It's not based in strategy.

[00:11:35]:

It's not something that you are thinking about a lot. You're not calculating, you're not working really hard behind the scenes to manufacture a certain outcome. And indeed, you're not actually all that invested in an outcome or attached to an outcome. You're not monitoring someone's response to you. And then if they don't respond the way you think they should have, or you'd hoped that they would, then that's a problem. And you feel like you've failed, or you feel like there's something very wrong, and you take it personally and you think about it and you dwell on it. Maybe you feel a lot of shame or stress. I don't think that just being kind has that sort of emotional baggage or residue attached to it.

[00:12:19]:

I think once you tend to the underlying fears and wounds, you're able to be kind and generous and loving without fear, without an agenda, without strings attached, without feeling like you do need to control, or that your sense of self is tethered to the way that someone responds to you. And I do want to mention as well, because I think, as I said, with terms like people pleasing, I think we can take it to extremes and pathologize ourselves if we notice ourselves ever doing this. And I think, let's be honest, we all do this from time to time. We all people please. We all adapt ourselves to certain situations and people and dynamics. And I think that that's fine. It is what it is. I think where it becomes a problem is where it is compromising your inner sense of integrity and your awareness of who you are.

[00:13:09]:

And so if it becomes your only way or the predominant way that you move about the world, that you're always flip flopping, that you're always shapeshifting, that you're always contorting yourself such that you've lost connection with who the you is underneath all of that, that it's always this performance and that it's just trading one mask for another. And you don't actually know what is true or authentic to you when you feel burnt out by it, when you feel resentful. I think that's when it crosses over into being a concern, being something that we want to look at. It's not about being overly vigilant of, oh, I actually behave a certain way in front of my boss because I'm trying to impress them and I wouldn't do that in front of my friend. Does that mean I'm a people pleaser? No, I think that that means you're human and that's perfectly fine. But as I said, when we do feel like it's only masks and facades and performances, and so much of our self worth hinges on our ability to earn the approval and validation of others, that's when we want to look at these things. Because ultimately, there's a part of you underneath all of that that is terrified of what would happen if you didn't people please.

[00:14:23]:

Part of you that's absolutely terrified of the idea that someone could not like you or could disapprove of you. And that's the part of you that needs your attention, because that's probably a very old wound and that needs some love and compassion and understanding rather than just trying to kind of forcefully change the behaviour that springs from it. Okay? So I hope that's given you something to think about, something to reflect on. And as I said, if this resonates with you and you notice these patterns within yourself, definitely recommend you cheque out healing anxious attachment next week as we talk about all of this stuff and so much more in the course. And I would love to see you there. So make sure to jump on the waitlist in the show notes if you haven't already. Otherwise, thank you for joining me and I will see you again next week. Thanks guys.

[00:15:16]:

Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again sooner.

 

 

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Ghosting: Why It Happens & How to Process

Does ghosting leave you feeling anxious, confused, and questioning your self-worth? If so, you’re not alone. Today, we're diving deep into this all-too-common dating phenomenon. We'll explore why ghosting occurs, the common impacts it has on self-esteem, and how to give yourself the closure and peace you desire.

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Stephanie Rigg [00:00:04]:

In today's episode, we are talking all about Ghosting. Why it happens, what to do if it happens to you, how to process it, how to emerge on the other side of that experience without feeling really demoralized, without internalizing that and making it all about you, without feeling really deflated and jaded about the whole process of online dating and modern dating and everything that that can entail when practices like Ghosting are, unfortunately, somewhat common and probably more so than they've ever been before. So I'm going to give you a bit of a pep talk around Ghosting, unpacking, as I said, why people might ghost and what you can do about it to keep yourself intact if it does happen to you.

Stephanie Rigg [00:01:16]:

Before we dive into today's episode, a couple of quick announcements. Healing Angst attachment is now closed, so you don't have to listen to me telling you all about that for another few months at least. But I am holding a live masterclass in a few weeks time on Building Trust. So this is going to be around self trust and relational trust and will encompass everything that would fall under that umbrella. So building your own sense of self up so that you can stop doubting yourself so much, that you can really trust in your own perception of a situation, trust in your needs and your ability to advocate for yourself. And also looking at the relational piece. So how to build trust if you have a trust wound from a previous relationship, how to rebuild trust in a relationship if there's been a breach of trust. It's going to be very comprehensive on that very big topic and you can sign up for that via the link in my show notes.

Stephanie Rigg [00:02:12]:

This one is, as I said, a live masterclass. It's nice and affordable and you'll get access to the recording as well if you're unable to join Live. So check that out if you're interested. Second quick announcement is just to share the featured review, which is Stephanie provides an incredible amount of wisdom, comfort and understanding. Her examples of relationship dynamics and behaviours are always so well observed and relevant to coping, whether it's as a people pleaser anxiously attached individual or someone mourning a breakup. Spoiler alert. I'm all three. I've been all three of those as well.

Stephanie Rigg [00:02:41]:

Don't you worry. All the topics that Stephanie dives into show that we're not alone and that these are really common emotions. Talking about it allows for healing and a path to more self worth and respect, which we all need. Thanks so much, Stephanie. Continue to follow your wonderful instincts and heart. Thank you for that review. I really do appreciate your very kind words and I'm glad that the podcast has been a support to you. If that was your review, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my masterclasses, which by the way, you're able to include the building trust one that I said is coming up.

Stephanie Rigg [00:03:14]:

You can elect to have that as your free masterclass and come along for free. Okay, let's dive into this conversation around Ghosting, why it happens and how to process it. And I should say this was actually in response to when I put the word out on Instagram asking people to submit podcast topic requests. Ghosting was one that came up a number of times. How do I not go into a self worth meltdown spiral if I've been ghosted by someone and I'm feeling really shitty about it? And I think that it's important to set the scene a little here and say that as always, there are degrees. There is a spectrum being ghosted by someone that you've only ever had online contact with versus being ghosted by someone that you're in a relationship with. I know that sounds wild, but some of the stories that I hear from people who've been in proper several year long relationships with a person and being on the brink of moving in together and then the person just disappears off the face of the earth and ghosts in a true sense of the word. So there's obviously degrees and the advice that I'm giving today might vary depending on where you sit on that spectrum.

Stephanie Rigg [00:04:28]:

Obviously, the experience of being ghosted by a relative stranger is going to likely have less of an impact than being ghosted by someone that you're in a fully fledged relationship with and you envisaged a future with. And rightly so in the kind of situation that I just described. So recognising that there are degrees and ghosting can take many forms, but this idea of ghosting so someone is there and then they disappear. They become uncontactable, and they give no explanation. It's kind of unannounced. And it just leaves you reeling, because all of a sudden you don't know what happened and you had expectations and maybe you were really excited about this person. And then all of a sudden that is taken away from you without explanation. So I think when this happens to people who are more anxiously attached and unfortunately, I think that is probably the dynamic is that it tends to be anxious folks on the receiving end because from everything we know about anxious attachment, it's unlikely that you are going to be doing the ghosting.

Stephanie Rigg [00:05:34]:

You are much more likely to be receiving the ghosting, which, as I said, is unfortunate, but it just is what it is. If you are someone who leans more anxious and you get ghosted, what's going to happen? Likely that you are going to spin out to be so overcome with questions and needing to find information and this doesn't make any sense. Poring over every single text message and going but they just said this and only yesterday they were responding and we were making plans. And all of that urge to how can I gather information and go into detective mode to try and make sense of this thing? Did I say something? What was it that I said? Were they angry there? They didn't seem angry based on their reply. How can I rationalise this thing that is sending me into an anxiety spiral? And I just want to say that's not on you. Meaning you're a weirdo for responding in that way, right? That's a normal response to unfortunate and hurtful and confusing behaviour. Ghosting is not good behaviour. It's not acceptable, it's not kind, it's not respectful, and it's absolutely understandable that you would respond to that by seeking answers.

Stephanie Rigg [00:06:46]:

But the great irony of this, and I've spoken about this before in the context of more broadly, like toxic relationships or really dysfunctional relationships, when they end that they can leave us with so many unanswered questions and just desperate for clarity and closure. And I just need to get in touch with this person and sit down with them so that they can explain to me what the hell happened, so I can make sense of it and make my peace with it and move on with my life, at least in a way that closes the chapter and it feels somewhat resolved. But when it just goes from one direction to falling off a cliff and I feel like I'm standing there looking around dazed and confused, not knowing what happened, that's a really challenging thing for the brain to make sense of and make peace with. I think Ghosting really falls into that same bucket with the added challenge of if someone has ghosted, the likelihood of them suddenly showing up and being available to have a closure wrap up conversation with you. Highly unlikely, right? And people always say to me, if someone ghosts, should you reach out and ask them for more explanation? Should I keep pushing and trying? Should I try contacting them and see why they ghosted? And again, I understand the urge. I understand the desire for resolution. But if you were to zoom out and look at that more objectively query whether this person who did not have the emotional maturity, the emotional capacity, the level of care or respect or investment in you and building a relationship with you to have a challenging conversation in the first place. They weren't able to sit down and say, hey, I'm not feeling it, or, hey, I'm freaking out, or I can't do this for whatever reason, right? The reasons aren't really that important.

Stephanie Rigg [00:08:39]:

The fact is that they couldn't bring themselves to do that or they didn't care enough to put themselves through the discomfort of having an honest conversation with you in the first place. That is why they resorted to ghosting. And I think in that case it's really unlikely that they're going to turn around and have developed magically the capacity to sit down and have an audit conversation with you where you do a post mortem and they explain themselves in a way that is helpful and allows you to do that emotional processing. So recognizing that Ghosting, while very unskillful and disrespectful is in a funny way its own form of communication, right? This person is telling you everything that you need to know in Ghosting and what they're telling you is I do not have capacity to be in relationship with you. Right? And please take that as a comment on their constraints. And ultimately, and I know that this is easier said than done, try and experience this as a gift because this person has revealed to you what their capacity is and there's a good chance that that capacity constraint would have been a barrier to intimacy at some other point in the relationship in any case, right? Because it's not just the ghosting. The ghosting is the behaviour that springs from that emotional unavailability which is really the core issue at play. And so again, it's not nice.

Stephanie Rigg [00:10:17]:

It feels awful and it feels confusing and it really can very easily lead us to spiral into a lot of self doubt, a lot of worthlessness, a lot of shame and humiliation, embarrassment around being rejected. All of those are very normal feelings and hold those feelings. Don't try and make yourself not feel the thing but at the same time recognise that this person lacks a base level of emotional availability that would have allowed you to build something with them. So in a funny sort of way it's probably a blessing in disguise. Okay? Really if this has happened to you, my strong advice and of course, again, take it or leave it. And I know there's a million exceptions and a million iterations of this and of course take what works leaves what doesn't. But I think that if you can take a person ghosting as information and as an unskillful indirect form of communication of their capacity and investment level in you accept that as it is. Don't try and get anything from them.

Stephanie Rigg [00:11:30]:

And before reaching out to them to just sometimes people will say, okay, I don't expect a reply but I just want to give them a piece of my mind and tell them how much of whatever they are insert profanity here. And look you can do that if you want, but I think that oftentimes you're going to feel worse for it. My personal view is take the high road. Don't fire off angry texts that are just trying to beat someone down. I know that some parts of us can feel like we're better for it if we tell someone that they're terrible and that they're a piece of work and whatever else, you can get creative with what that message or email might look like. But I think that integrity and dignity and really staying true to our values and true to authenticity and self worth, I don't know that we have to stoop to the level of unleashing on someone and going on a tirade because I think that that is descending to the level of the person who has hurt you. Rather than holding your head up high and declining to participate in dynamics like that, you can tell someone that you're disappointed. But again, I think the golden rule here is if you are going to be hanging out for their reply in a way that is going to destabilize you and consume you, don't send the message.

Stephanie Rigg [00:12:54]:

If you think that you can really send any message, whether it's heated or otherwise, and put your phone down and walk away and genuinely feel a sense of closure and detachment after you've done that, then fine, you can do that and that is absolutely at your discretion. If you're going to fire that message off and then be checking your phone every minute of every day for the next three weeks, waiting for their response, and you're going to be checking whether they've been online and checking, checking, checking, because I need to know whether they've seen it and whether they're going to reply, then I don't think that that's advisable. And I think that, you know, deep down, that that is not really helping you to let go. All of that being said, try to honor the emotions that come with this process because as I said, completely normal and natural. It's not a pleasant experience, it is not kind, it's not respectful, and it is normal and natural that you would feel hurt and disappointed and confused and embarrassed. All of those things are very normal, right? But try not to take that leap from those emotions to I'm worthless and this always happens to me because people don't like me and no one's ever going to like me. And all of those stories that really take us from pain to suffering and keep us stuck there, that's my quick Hot take on Ghosting. As I said, I think that unfortunately it's common enough that I hear about it all the time.

Stephanie Rigg [00:14:18]:

And unfortunately, I think with online dating there is a level of anonymity and a lack of accountability that allows people to just be lazy and be selfish and not be terribly considerate of the people that they are interacting with. But if that happens to you, you can very confidently rest assured that that is not the kind of person that you want to build a relationship with. Again, it's not to say they're a terrible person, but they lack the capacity, they lack the emotional availability and it's better you find that out sooner rather than later, even if it's not under circumstances that we would like as always. I hope that that has been helpful, you guys, and if you have enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review, a five star rating. If you're on Spotify, share it with the people in your life, share it on social media. It all adds up. And I am always so appreciative of all of your support. So thank you for being here, and I look forward to seeing you again next time.

Stephanie Rigg [00:15:10]:

Thanks, guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again sooner.

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In today's episode, we're diving deep on the abandonment wound - a fear that lies at the heart of many insecure attachment patterns and relational dynamics. A fear of abandonment can show up in so many ways, and can keep us from experiencing relationships in a way that feels trusting, safe and secure.

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In today's episode, we're diving deep on the abandonment wound - a fear that lies at the heart of many insecure attachment patterns and relational dynamics. A fear of abandonment can show up in so many ways, and can keep us from experiencing relationships in a way that feels trusting, safe and secure. 

We'll cover:

  • how it feels to fear abandonment in your relationship

  • different forms of abandonment (physical, emotional)

  • relational behaviours that a fear of abandonment can lead to

  • the link between self-abandonment and a fear of abandonment

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0:00:04.41 → 0:00:51.08

You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship coach Stephanie Rigg, and I'm really glad you're here. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. In today's episode, I'm going to be talking about how a fear of abandonment impacts our relationships. So as I was preparing for this episode, and I put the call out on Instagram for people to submit topic ideas, and a few people submitted the topic of a fear of abandonment and varying questions around that.

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And as I was reflecting, it's kind of wild that we're at episode 97. I think this is of the podcast and I've never done an episode specifically on the fear of abandonment. And the reason that that seems a little wild is because, as many of you would know, a fear of abandonment is really at the heart of a lot of anxious attachment patterns. And I know that anxious attachment is the experience of many of my listeners. So it's taken a while for us to get here to an episode exclusively on the fear of abandonment, even though we've touched on it in many different settings and many different conversations up until now.

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But I'm hoping that in today's episode we can delve into it a little more specifically, looking at how that fear manifests itself, what behaviours it might drive us to, and I suppose talking about less obvious aspects of the fear of abandonment. And for a lot of people, it can be kind of confusing that they might identify with this fear. Given that it would make more sense if we'd been literally abandoned as a child, then that'd be a pretty direct joining of the dots, right? But for most people, hopefully, that hasn't been your experience, and yet this fear can really be very, very intense and profound and can be a very, very strong driving force in your relational patterns. So we're going to be diving into all of that today before I do.

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Today is the last episode before doors close for this round of healing anxious attachment. So I think registration closes Sunday night, my time, so that's 48 hours from now thereabouts. If you are someone who struggles with anxious attachment, as I said, I know many of you do and you're looking to make a change and get some support around that, I would really love to see you in the programme. As I've mentioned, I have a VIP offering this time round and that allows you to work directly with me in a small group setting over an eight week period. It's an online community, so you can connect with each other, which is really such a valuable aspect that I think a lot of people overlook having that connection and seeing that other people have the same embarrassing, neurotic thoughts that you do and do the same weird things.

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There's a lot of shame that dissolves from having that community connection component. So whether you're interested in the course, in its classic version or the VIP programme with me, either way, I'd really encourage you to cheque it out if you're feeling the pull. As I said, this is the final call before registration closes, at least until later in the year. I'll likely run another round, I think, before the end of the year, but no solid plans yet, so best to jump in while you can. And you will have lifetime access to all the materials, so it's no big issue if you have a busy period coming up and you can't keep to an eight week programme or anything like that.

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Okay, let's dive into this conversation around the fear of abandonment. So, as I said in the introduction, a fear of abandonment is really at the heart of anxious attachment. We know that, right? And that fear is what, for many of us, drives us to really desire closeness and to really feel a lot of anxiety around distance separation or anything that might feel threatening to the primacy of the relationship. And the other person, when we're in relationship, becomes our safety blanket, they become our power source, they become our anchor, and that really exists outside of us.

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I've mentioned before on the podcast, when talking about the origin story of anxious attachment, that a really common theme that emerges across a million different variations and contexts and nuance and family systems is inconsistency. So the anxiously attached child has an overall positive impression of connection and love, but they can't rely on it. So there's this sense of, it feels so good when we're connected, but I can't trust that you are going to be there when I need you. So when I call for you, there is some inconsistency or unreliability in your responsiveness to my cues. And because of that, the anxiously attached child becomes hyperactivated in their attempts at getting and keeping connection.

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Because it's like, if I don't know whether you're going to come when I call, I don't want you to ever go. Because that exposes me to the risk that you will not be available to me when I need you. And that feels terrifying to me. Right? And we see that that pattern, which for most people is an origin story from childhood in one form or another, carries through to our adult relationships.

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Right? So with a partner, it's not like I'm terrified of being alone, full stop. And I think that this is a really important distinction because in my experience, personally and working with a lot of people on this, it's not so much I'm scared of ever being by myself, I'm scared of spending time alone, of being in my own company. That's not it. I think that's an oversimplification and kind of misses the mark.

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I think the fear of abandonment is more I'm scared that in a moment when I might need you, you won't be there for me. And so as a result, I would rather not take the risk of separation or distance when I feel like you are unreachable to me. Okay? So I think that related to that is this fear of emotional abandonment. And I think, again, as I spoke to in the start, it's not so much physical abandonment, literal abandonment in the sense of someone just upping and leaving although that can be a factor, right?

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And a lot of people can fear someone breaking up with them in the relationship ending. But if you are in a more stable long term relationship and that doesn't seem like a risk, you don't have any sort of conscious fears that your partner is actually going to leave you. What you might experience is this sense of emotional abandonment. So when you feel like you are again reaching for someone and they are not there or they are shutting you out or there's some sort of unavailability in a moment of emotional need and feeling alone with your big emotions can feel very daunting. So it's this fear of what if I am either today or in the future, sad or lonely or afraid and I can't rely on you to soothe me in that and I can't rely on you to help me through that experience.

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And again, this links back to what I've spoken about many times before, which is that the anxious person tends to be overly reliant on their attachment figure. So that's usually a caregiver in childhood and a romantic partner later in life they tend to be overly reliant on that figure to do all of the soothing work, right, because they have typically an underdeveloped capacity for self soothing. And so there's this sense of if I have these big emotions and I don't believe in your reliability to be there for me and kind of rescue me almost from those experiences that feel so overwhelming to me, that's terrifying. And so whether that's a real or imagined scenario, whether that's present day or hypothetical future scenario, that can trigger a lot of stuff as well this sense of you're not going to be there when I need you and that is not okay, right? The last thing I'll say in sort of framing this issue is and it's in the same vein as what I was just saying around it's not so much the fear of being alone as it is the fear of letting go or disconnecting.

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So I think that again, many people who I work with would identify with anxious attachment but they might have been on their own for a while, maybe they've been single for years. And what I'll often hear is people saying I'm quite happy with my life, right? I'm quite content in my life but as soon as I'm in relationship, all of my anxious stuff comes up and I get really afraid of losing the person and that drives me into all of these behaviours. And I think that the way I make sense of that is there is this fear of having to disconnect from a person, having to let go of a person, having to lose a person. That fear of loss and grief and decoupling ourselves from someone who we love and care about, that feels more like the fear than just the being alone.

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So I think that it is that transition from connection to disconnection that really triggers the anxiously attached person. And again, that makes sense when we look at inconsistency as being part of that origin story blueprint that created these patterns within us in the first place. So I just wanted to set that up as framing our discussion, just drawing out some more nuanced takes on what we're really talking about with this fear of abandonment. And that might not be your experience. Maybe you do really directly and literally fear abandonment and maybe that has been your experience and that makes sense.

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But I think for a lot of people it tends to be a bit more indirect than that or a bit less literal. And it is these senses of like, I fear emotional abandonment. I fear that you won't be there when I need you. I fear I cannot rely on you to take care of me, to respond to me, to be available to me, to even rescue me when I'm in distress. And when we have that kind of story and that feeling, that's a pretty good sign that we're carrying some burdens from childhood, because even as I say that, I'm scared that I'm going to be distressed and alone and you're not going to be there to save me, that's a very young kind of story.

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That's a very childlike fear. And I don't mean that disparagingly. It's not saying you're being juvenile, but just recognising how that part of us might be a young part that's holding that fear and maybe doesn't realise that we are an adult and that we have more capacity than we once did to hold ourselves through that. Now, let's explore a few ways that this fear of abandonment can impact our relationships. There are lots of these, right?

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There are a lot of tentacles, there are a lot of branches that come from this tree. But some of the ones that occurred to me while I was preparing for this episode were a desire to be chosen really fully and almost like, I want you to be obsessed with me. Because if you are so desperately in love with me and you think I'm the most incredible person in the world and you can't live without me, then you probably won't ever leave me. And that feels like I'm derisking on that fear because you think I am an indispensable part of your life. Whereas if you would be perfectly fine without me and you're just choosing me and it feels a little bit more balanced and less intense, then that might feel riskier that I'm going to lose you because you aren't as attached and dependent upon me as I might be to you.

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Another way that it impacts us is this primacy of connection, right? And again I've spoken about this on the podcast a million times. For the anxiously attached person, connection is king. It is absolutely top rung. It is everything.

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Prioritise and protect the relationship at all costs, that is the most important drive for us in creating safety for ourselves. If I can protect the relationship, I can protect myself. And we can see how that is related to this fear of abandonment because I don't trust that I would be okay if I had to deal with either you being in relationship with me but being emotionally absent or unreachable, or if you were to leave me or I were to leave you, the relationship were to end. I can't fathom having to let go of you and emotionally detach from you because that feels impossible. So this primacy of the connection and if I just nurture the connection above all else, if I drop everything in my life to make sure that you're okay and we're okay and you're happy and you love me and we don't fight and don't want to rock the boat and make sure there's no threat to our relationship, then that feels like the way that I'm protecting against all of those fears.

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Related to this is the tendency to overstay in unhealthy dynamics. Now I have been guilty of this. I know that so many people that I work with, people I speak to on instagram, struggle with this a lot. The inability to let go, right? It's like I just will stay and stay and stay and keep trying and keep pushing and one more time and one more chance and just a little bit longer.

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Because again that inability to let go, that the resistance to decoupling, to disentangling ourselves emotionally, physically from this person who we have attached so tightly to that can feel like nothing would be worth, that nothing could be so bad as to justify that. And so the bar has to be so high in order for us to feel like a relationship is worth walking away from. That is usually an absolute last resort. And while I'm all for putting in the work to make a relationship work and not being overly flighty as soon as things get hard, anxious, attaches. And as I said, I've been absolutely guilty of this in the past, can take this to extremes where it's patently unhealthy, not working, really not supporting your well being and is so far short of what you really desire for yourself in your life.

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And if someone had said to you before you were in the relationship, here's what it's going to look like, what do you think? Do you want to go ahead, you probably would say absolutely not. But when you're in it and you're so far gone you just can't let go, you just want to hold on a little longer. And I think that is related to this fear of abandonment, among other things. The last thing that I wanted to raise is the self abandonment piece.

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And again, this could be a whole episode, but self abandonment in the sense of suppressing needs, going with the flow, people pleasing, just do whatever the other person wants, fearing that to be difficult is to be unlovable, which will lead to someone not wanting us. Right. Relatedly in conflict, we might raise something that's concerning us and then very quickly back down because we are too uncomfortable with the conflict. And the conflict feels like a precursor to abandonment or a precursor to the relationship ending, which, as we've just discussed, feels very unsafe and nothing feels worth it. So whatever need we were voicing that felt very important at the moment we were voicing it, when it's pitted against the possibility of the relationship ending or feeling threatened, it very quickly dissolves and becomes unimportant relative to the importance of protecting the relationship.

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Right. So I think that again, in an indirect way, that fear of abandonment is driving our patterns of self abandonment and deprioritizing all of our very valid and genuine needs in relationship in favour of just keeping the relationship going and intact. Okay? So I hope that that has been helpful as a bit of a deep dive into the fear of abandonment, how it can show up and some of the behaviours and patterns that it can drive in our relationship. As I said, if this resonates with you, please do cheque out healing anxious Attachment we go into all of this and so much more in a lot of detail.

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There's eight modules, 10 hours of video, guided meditations, workbooks notes. It's very comprehensive and over a thousand students have completed the course and it's got absolutely rave reviews. So if you are someone who struggles with anxious attachment, I would love to see you in there. Enrollment is open for another couple of days. Otherwise, thank you so much for joining me guys.

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I hope you have a beautiful weekend and I will see you again soon. Take care. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating.

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The Importance of Discomfort in Life & Relationships

In today’s episode, we’re talking all about discomfort — specifically, why it’s so essential in any healing journey to reframe the way we approach and relate to getting uncomfortable. Most of us recoil at the first sign of discomfort, preferring to stay squarely within the domain of what we know and can control. But this often means we’re confining ourselves to a very limited experience of what’s possible in our lives. 

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In today’s episode, we’re talking all about discomfort — specifically, why it’s so essential in any healing journey to reframe the way we approach and relate to getting uncomfortable. 

Most of us recoil at the first sign of discomfort, preferring to stay squarely within the domain of what we know and can control. But this often means we’re confining ourselves to a very limited experience of what’s possible in our lives. 

We’ll cover:

  • Why we tend to gravitate towards what is familiar and known

  • How embracing discomfort builds resilience 

  • Physical protocols for exploring discomfort 

  • Building our emotional capacity for discomfort  

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You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship coach Stephanie Rigg, and I'm really glad you're here. You hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. In today's episode, I'm going to be talking all about discomfort, and specifically the importance of getting uncomfortable, of discomfort in building our capacity in life and in relationships.

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So this is something that has been a really big part of my personal journey and it's also a key theme in the work that I do with clients and students, because I think that we are collectively really wired for comfort, probably as a baseline, as human beings, comfort equals familiarity, equals safety. So there's a strong tendency to cling to that which we know, which tends to be that which is known and comfortable. Right? But I think a huge part of building our capacity and growing lies in doing things that are new and are unknown and are uncertain and really stretching ourselves. And I think that the more we use comfort as our North Star almost, when we're just always choosing the comfortable thing, the known thing, the thing that provides us with a semblance of control and certainty, then we're always going to be getting more of what we've already got, which for a lot of us is not really what we want.

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We want a different experience, we want new patterns, new dynamics in our lives. We want to grow, we want to expand, we want to evolve. And yet oftentimes we still, consciously or not, cling to what is known and what is comfortable. And I think oftentimes that is at ODS with our desire to grow and evolve. So I'm going to be sharing some thoughts around this today.

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My own journey with embracing discomfort and the rewards that I've reaped from doing that and making that a practise. And how you might start to turn towards discomfort and use that as a way to build your own capacity and self trust and self respect, self worth, all of those other good things that I talk about a lot. Before we dive into that, a couple of quick announcements. The first being that registration for healing, anxious attachment is still open. The early bird period has closed now, but registration for the course is still open for another few days.

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And that includes the live programme, which you might have heard me mention, which is an upgrade from the classic course, which is a self paced course. The live programme includes an eight week container, working with me in a small group setting, 690 minutes live group coaching calls and an online community for you all to connect. Share your experiences as you go through the programme. And really build those relationships with other people who are in the same situation, same boat as you, which I think in itself, can be very healing. So if you are interested, you can head straight to my website and you should be able to find the sign up page relatively easily or we will link that in the show notes as well.

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Second quick announcement is just to share the featured review. This one was pulled from Spotify and it was thank you so much for this life changing podcast. The quality and depth of every subject is enlightening and really has helped me make fundamental changes in my life. Thanks, Greg, I really appreciate that and I'm glad to hear it. If you're listening to this, Greg, you can send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and we'll set you up with free access to one of my master classes as a way to say thank you for taking the time.

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All right, so let's talk about discomfort and the role of discomfort in life and in relationships. So I think that for those of us, particularly who tend towards insecure attachment patterns, discomfort is something that we experience a lot of, probably, but also have a really visceral response against. So, because we don't have a level of trust within ourselves and in our capacity to navigate difficult things, as soon as we come up against discomfort, there can be a very strong urge to pull away. Right? And again, as I said in the introduction, there's a human element to this, right?

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We are survival driven beings and that is always going to be our primary drive, is to do the thing that is going to most aid or most increase the likelihood of our survival. Right. Our base systems of the body are not interested in enlightenment and self actualization, they're interested in survival. And so there can be a really strong reaction against things that feel threatening in some way. And when we can recognise that, things that are unknown are often going to feel unsafe because they are unfamiliar.

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And our nervous system is really primed to help us stay alive. And when it can't predict how something's going to go is your nervous system is essentially a predictive tool. It calls upon everything that you've ever experienced and seen and absorbed from the world around you and sort of philtres all of that and goes, okay, what do I have on this situation, these sensations in my body, this emotional experience, this relational dynamic, what information do I have on this? And it'll call on all of those things and make an assessment of how safe or dangerous the situation is and urge you to act accordingly. And so if something is new or unknown or unfamiliar or uncomfortable, then your body brain, nervous system is going to be saying, don't go there.

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That's no good. We don't know how to control that outcome, we don't know how to make sure that that's safe. So it's best to be avoided, right? The trouble with this is, as I said in the introduction that we end up staying in our comfort zone. There's all of those quotes that you see plastered all over the internet.

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Growth happens outside your comfort zone. It's a little bit naff, but it's not untrue. Right. The analogy that my therapist always gives is like if you're training at the gym and you're lifting weights, everything in your body is going to be telling you like, put the damn thing down. It's heavy.

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This is uncomfortable. Right. But we can know rationally that that point is the point where it's most important that we stay in the discomfort and that we edge out beyond that point where our body and brain wants to quit or wants to pull back from the discomfort. Right. So as much as it makes sense that we would cling to things that feel comfortable and known, and it makes sense that we would recoil from discomfort, whether that's physical discomfort, emotional discomfort, or any other kind of discomfort.

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And while there is absolutely wisdom in listening to our intuitive knowledge, it's not to say that you should just always override what your body is telling you to do. I think that a huge part of growing is in changing the way that we relate to discomfort. Okay? And I think the more we can change our mindset around it and go, okay, discomfort is an opportunity for me to build my capacity. That is really, really fertile ground for self exploration.

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And relatively, I think, exploring the way we relate to stress and not in the sense of chronic stress burnout because I don't think anyone would be arguing that that is an opportunity and that that is growth enhancing. I think quite the contrary, but more situational stress, it is really what triggers an adaptation in us. Right? Again, going back to the gym example, it's only when you're putting those muscles under stress which happens when you are stretching yourself, that's what triggers the adaptation after the fact. You're not going to get any growth or adaptation from the first rep in your first set because that is comfortable and it's not challenging you.

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Right. So I think that recognising the opportunity that lies in staying in discomfort and, as I said, reframing the way that we relate to discomfort and seeing it as a challenge and an opportunity and recognising that our expansion lives on the other side of our courage in lingering in that discomfort is very, very transformative in the relationship that we have with ourselves, but also with the world around us and with life. Because when we are motivated by staying comfortable and we don't want to stretch ourselves and we actively shy away from discomfort, then we become very, very fragile. Right? We try and avoid situations, people, dynamics that could lead us to feel uncomfortable.

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We stay in a bubble of what we know. And as I said, it's almost like we shape our lives around trying to avoid the things that could lead us to feel discomfort. Whereas when we open ourselves to the possibility of discomfort and trust ourselves to be resilient in experiencing that discomfort and coming out the other side, not only surviving it, but actually being stronger for it, then I think we become quite resilient in a way that we just aren't. If we're so attached to the idea of comfort and familiarity and certainty, and really, while it's a different entry point into the conversation, this is the essence of everything that I teach, frankly, in relationships and in the podcast In Anxious Attachment. It's like, can I build up my own inner capacity to be with whatever arises in my life and in my relationships?

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Such that I'm not living in fear all the time, such that I trust my ability to hold it, even if it doesn't feel good, even if it's frightening or overwhelming or painful or hard, that I can feel those things and I can be with those emotions and those sensations and I can survive it. And we really give ourselves these embodied experiences of our own efficacy and our own strength and our own capability that we just never get to experience if we're constantly in avoidance and in that running away and pulling back, and that clinging to the familiar, to clinging to what we can control. Right? And I think that having those embodied experiences of like, oh, yeah, that was really hard. But here I am on the other side of it that might start in the gym or in doing a cold plunge or any other number of practises that we might look at as a way to build this discomfort muscle.

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It might start in those settings, but it really ripples out throughout your life and it teaches you, oh, yeah, I can feel pain and discomfort and survive and be okay. Right. So I think on that note, some protocols or some practises that you might wish to explore on the physical side for me, and I did say that I'd speak to my own journey with this. I used to be someone who was very much comfortable and I had really no desire or interest in being uncomfortable. I didn't really like any sort of strenuous physical activity.

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And I told myself a story and told others a story of, like, why would you want to do hard exercise? That sounds awful. No, thank you. I'll just go for a nice walk or do an easy yoga class or something. This is nothing against walking or yoga.

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I still love both of those things very much. But I had this attitude towards physical challenge of like, no, thank you, I'll be fine. That's not for me. And I can look back on that now and recognise how much that was coming from a self protective place, because I didn't think I could do it right. I didn't think I had it in me.

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I didn't trust myself. I thought I'd be bad at it or I thought I'd fail, I thought I'd be weak, thought I'd be embarrassed, and so I just didn't. And I think in this broader conversation around discomfort, that's probably true in a lot of the things that we don't do because it's uncomfortable is, oh, I don't want to fail. I don't want to make a fool out of myself. I don't want to be in pain or struggle because I might feel shame or humiliation or any of those things.

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So for me, a real turning point was kind of getting out of my own way there. And physical exercise and really learning to embrace challenging exercise has been a huge part of my own journey with this. And I think I've told the story on the show before, a few years ago, when I was in a previous relationship that was not very good and I was nearing the end of that and I kind of knew I was nearing the end of it, but I didn't quite have the courage yet. I didn't quite have the resolve or, frankly, the plan on how I was going to do that and what I was going to do and what my life was going to look like. All of those things that can come with the impending end of a difficult relationship.

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And I set myself the challenge to run 100 kilometres over the course of a month. And for some people who are runners, that's not a great deal, that's not a huge distance, right? But for me, definitely not being a runner at all, that was a big deal to set that goal. And I did it. I ran every day or every other day, and I reached that goal of 100 kilometres over the course of the month.

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And not only was it significant that I set the goal and I did it even though it was hard, but there was this funny thing that happened whereby it was really, really hard at first, and then it got easier as I got better and stronger and my fitness improved. And it was exhilarating to experience my own growth in a very direct, visceral, observable, measurable way. I got faster and I wasn't so out of breath and I could actually enjoy the process. So that, for me, was really symbolic and significant. And it wasn't long after that that wasn't the only reason, but it wasn't long after that that I did kind of bite the bullet and face the discomfort and the unknown of leaving that relationship because I had a newfound trust in my ability to do hard things.

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So since then, in my own life, doing more physically challenging things and constantly stretching myself in that respect has become a big part of my spiritual, if we want to call it that, emotional practise of embracing discomfort and observing discomfort and the thoughts that go into my head when I'm doing something physically hard, telling me, oh, I can't do this. This is hard. And then the other voice, which is kind of a wise inner voice, saying, yes, you can. You can do this. Even if it's for another 30 seconds, you can do this.

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And just trusting that and doing it and then going, okay, there you go, 30 seconds more, that's an achievement. I'm building the container, right? So finding something doesn't have to be running. It doesn't have to be lifting weights. It doesn't have to be anything.

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But finding something for you that is physically challenging, I think is a really, really beautiful, effective way to develop your capacity to be with discomfort, develop your self trust and your self respect. And to do that in a very embodied way. So that your system, your brain, your body goes, yeah, I'm strong and I can do hard things, and I can feel really, really good for having done them. A more emotional or mental example of a practise here, I think we could really use just working through a trigger or a difficult emotion. So, again, often when we feel let's use anxiety as an example that most, if not all of you will relate to.

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When we feel something like that, often we go, oh, my God, something bad's happening. And rather than actually just staying with the discomfort of the emotion, we launch into trying to make it stop. So that might be I fire off a million text messages, or I go and have an argument with someone or I do something, but I'm really trying to not have to make contact with the thing that I'm feeling that feels so uncomfortable. And I think that while we can understand where that's coming from, because the felt sense, the felt experience of anxiety is not pleasant, right? It's uncomfortable and it's big and it's overwhelming, actually.

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Just staying with it and going, okay, what's going on? For me, rather than trying to get away from our feelings, can we spend a bit of time with them and delve into them a little now, of course, there will be times when that is not the thing that you need, and there will be situations where you might need to avoid rather than jump into a feeling. And I will trust you to be discerning about what you need in any given moment. But building up our capacity to if you get triggered or stressed or something happens in your relationship and it feels really destabilising to your system, can you stay connected to yourself through that experience rather than scrambling to try and control the situation outwardly or to get away from it? So what's going on with me?

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What am I feeling in my body? What stories am I telling myself? Why does this feel so unsafe for me? What am I saying in my head? What conversations am I rehearsing with this person who has upset me?

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What do I need? Okay. And really just like, staying with the experience of our own feelings, even though they will be uncomfortable. And you notice when you stay with the primary emotion that it tends to pass much more quickly. But it's only when we either jump up to the level of story and we perpetuate the emotion by spinning around in a lot of really painful stories or we try and get away from it and avoid it and the emotion just gets bigger and louder because we're not tending to it.

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Then we're experiencing the discomfort anyway, but not really in a way that is adaptive or allows us to grow through it. So if that's one that you can relate to a really simple practise and again, it doesn't have to be every single time you feel a difficult emotion but actually just tuning in and staying, even if it's again staying. For 30 seconds with the physical experience of anxiety. Maybe journaling or just sitting and wrapping yourself in a hug and rocking back and forth and just soothing yourself as you would soothe a child and really staying in that and just noticing what happens. Right?

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So the last thing that I want to say on this, and again, you will have heard me speak about this before, if you've done any of my programmes or you've listened to some of the episodes I've done around nervous system regulation, but the core principle underlying any of this is uncomfortable but safe. Okay? So we don't want to push our systems to a level of discomfort that is so far outside of our capacity that we're going to experience almost whiplash or some sort of snap back to comfort zone because it was too much shock or too much overwhelm, right? So it really is an incremental process of building our capacity. That's why I give these examples of 30 seconds beyond when you want to quit or 30 seconds, right?

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It's not that you have to go from zero to running a marathon, it's just can I, bit by bit, build up my capacity so that over time I can look back and go, wow, look how far I've come. I used to totally spin out in a panic attack and now I'm able to quietly observe my feelings and my thoughts and stay with those and choose how I'm going to respond, right? It's not some big glamorous breakthrough. It's just a bit by bit, day by day, moment by moment process of stepping into something that is uncomfortable, but ultimately that we know to be safe. And that's a really important point in doing all of this in a way that is self responsible and self loving.

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So I hope that's been an interesting conversation for you and has given you something to think about the way that you experience comfort and discomfort in your own life. And I should say that I'm not out here trying to be a disciplinarian and telling you that you need to crack the whip and get uncomfortable all the time and do military drills and all of that kind of thing. Again, it's discomfort in a way that is an act of love towards ourselves, because we know that it's in aid of our growth. And that doesn't mean that in every moment of every day you need to be seeking out discomfort, but really pendulating between comfort and discomfort so that we have trust in our ability to be with both, to be with. Whatever arises, rather than having to hide from the world and from our lives in a way that really makes us very small and very fragile and vulnerable and blocks us from having the openness to experience that most of us desire.

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If you've enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a rating or a review. It really does help so much. Share it with the people in your life who you think might enjoy it. Otherwise, I look forward to seeing you again soon. Take care, guys.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

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3 Essential Ingredients to Make a Relationship Work

Are you constantly asking yourself why your relationships don't seem to be working out, even when you've given it your all? Today, let's tear down the walls of confusion and delve into an enlightening conversation on the three core essentials of a successful relationship that many of us might be overlooking. It's an eye-opening discussion drawn from my personal experiences and my work with numerous individuals on how to build a lasting, fulfilling relationship.

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Are you constantly asking yourself why your relationships don't seem to be working out, even when you've given it your all? Today, let's tear down the walls of confusion and delve into an enlightening conversation on the three core essentials of a successful relationship that many of us might be overlooking. It's an eye-opening discussion drawn from my personal experiences and my work with numerous individuals on how to build a lasting, fulfilling relationship.

Get ready to unpack the essence of compatibility, not just on the surface level, but the structural alignment of your life goals with your partner, a missed detail that often keeps relationships in a damaging loop of unresolved conflicts. Alongside understanding compatibility, we'll navigate the often tricky terrains of commitment and capacity. We'll unravel how these key elements interact, and more importantly, how to discern when it is an issue of willingness or capacity. 

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In today's episode, I am answering a listener question of how do I navigate being newly single in my mid thirtys. I feel like I'm running out of time. This is a question that I'm sure so many of you will resonate with maybe not being in your mid 30s, although I think there's a big chunk of you that might fall into that demographic. But just this sense of my life hasn't played out in the way that I envisaged and I feel like all of a sudden I'm scrambling and I am running out of time and we can really feel an overwhelming sense of scarcity. It can really rob us of the joy and the ability to be present in our lives as they are today and can lead us to feel really hopeless and deflated about what our future might hold.

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So I'm going to be sharing some thoughts on this and navigating being newly single, how you might approach dating from a mindset point of view, and how to really honour the desires that you have without feeling hopeless or overwhelmed or demoralised by where you find yourself. So that's what I'm going to be talking about today. Before I dive into that, I just want to share the featured review. This one was from Spotify and it said your show has been life-changing. Your words let me wrestle with what resonates and I could not be more grateful. Thank you for all you do because you're actually helping people look inward and heal. Thank you so much for your beautiful words. If that was your review, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my master classes.

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I also just want to say before I start this episode, I've mentioned this a couple of times before on the show, but my higher love course is a breakup course. But the first three modules are around grieving, the breakup. And the second three modules, there are six in total, are around looking to the future and really figuring out who am I and what do I desire? And really levelling up in terms of where we're at and what we want and our self-confidence and our self-worth, self-esteem so that you can think about reentering the dating world if that's what you desire, from a place that is not just going to be a rinse and repeat of your old patterns. Because there's nothing worse than feeling like we've had a fresh start and then we actually just end up right back where we started. So if you are in that situation, akin to the person who asked the question that is the topic of this episode. You can use the code Phoenix to save $150 on my Higher Love course if you enter that code at checkout on my website and we'll link that in the show notes. But that is a really great resource. I kind of forget about that course sometimes because it's always available on my website, but it is actually one that gets incredible feedback.

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And a lot of people who've then gone on to work with me in more intimate capacities really rave about Higher Love as being the turning point in their journey after a relationship ended. So if that's you and you're looking for some more support, definitely cheque that out. Okay, so let's talk about this, how to navigate being newly single in my mid thirty s, I feel like I'm out of time. I just really want to validate how very, very understandable this is, particularly for women. I think that oftentimes it is women who have this sentiment and this sense of scarcity around timing, particularly if you want to have kids. There's no denying that there is a timing reality, right? There are timing constraints around having kids. And while it's not to say that if you're in your mid 30s, time is up, time is also not infinite and limitless, and so it's really understandable that you'd be feeling all of those things. I think society gives us a lot of messaging around that.

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And again, for women, even putting the kids piece to one side, I think we really have been conditioned to feel like our value starts to plummet as we age as women. And so I just want to really validate all of the things that you're feeling, and I'm not just going to tell you like, oh, it's all in your head, don't worry about it, because I don't think that that would be helpful or honest. So it can be really hard to be grappling with all of those messages that we get and whatever realities might exist in terms of timing constraints. So I just really want to say, like, I get it. I think that's really, really normal. And as I said, so many of the people that I work with are in a similar boat. And that is really what brings them to me. Because it's like okay, I feel like I need to get serious about this now because maybe I've spent my twenty s and the first part of my 30s really focused on career or other things and in this youthful sense of having limitless time and then waking up one day and realising like, oh, okay, I'm not getting any younger, and there are still things that I really desire for my life, and I probably need to start moving on those things.

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So it is a really common experience that a lot of the people I work with will relate to. I think when we layer on to that, being newly single, if you've been in a long term relationship and you really pictured a future with that person and that's what you thought you were working towards, and you thought you kind of had it all laid out in front of you to have that taken away. I think we don't talk enough about the grief that is grief of a future that we thought we were going to have. Often we think about grief as being a backwards looking thing, something we're grieving the memories, we're grieving the past. But a huge piece of that grief when a relationship ends, a long term relationship where we pictured a future is grieving the future that we won't have with that person and grieving our fear of the unknown that now lies ahead of us when we thought we had it all figured out. So I think that really allowing yourself to grieve and to feel that is an important part because, again, just bypassing all of that and trying to bottle it up or try and push it down and telling yourself, like, there's no point being upset about it, here's where I am. I understand the part that wants to just white knuckle it through, but it's probably a short term solution. It's probably not going to really deal with the underlying reality of how you're feeling.

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So allowing yourself plenty of time and space to grieve not only the past but also the future. And when you've done that, and I say when you've done that, as if it's a nice to do list item that you can cheque off neatly, which of course is not the case. But in addition to that, I suppose the reframe I would offer you and the mindset piece that you might want to feel into is what possibilities arise from the reality of where I'm at right now. If my life has thrown me a curveball and it's not what I hoped or expected, that can be true. And at the same time we can go, okay, I have an opportunity here, and I have the power to decide. I have a level of freedom and autonomy at this moment in time in my life. And I can use this to get really, really clear and really empowered in what I truly desire for myself. And I think that a lot of people go look around them and go, everyone's married and has kids, and I'm not even close.

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How can I not feel defeated and deflated by that? But I think it's really important to remind ourselves that comparison we all know that comparison is not helpful. We all do it, of course, and it's not like, okay, I'll just flip the switch in my brain for comparison, and then I won't do that anymore. I think we all do that somewhat naturally, but it's important to remind yourself that you're not comparing apples with apples. You looking at your life and then comparing it to the person you went to high school with who's had everything play out the way that society would say is the right path or is kind of the traditional path. You don't know what's going on there. You don't know that that person's storybook. Life is as it seems. And I think we all have really imperfect information.

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As we all know, social media is a highlights real and of course it is. We don't really tend to show the hard stuff in real-time when it's messy and it's challenging and it's uncertain. So just reminding yourself that that comparison game when you're looking around you on social media, it's really bad data and it's just going to skew you towards feeling like your life is shit and everyone else's is great. So I think reminding yourself of that when you go into comparison. But also someone else's life might not actually be what you want, or they might be married and have kids, but maybe their marriage is not of the level of depth and connection that you desire. And maybe you haven't been willing to make certain sacrifices that someone else has. So just like trying to stay in your lane and go, okay, I'm here for whatever reason. I'm here because of my desires.

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I'm here because of my limits. I'm here because of my boundaries. I'm here because of my experiences. I'm here. And so what am I going to do with it, right? What am I going to do with this moment in time in my life? How can I really go all in on myself? How can I be so steadfastly committed to being the best version of myself? Not in the sense of like, I have to strive to be perfect in order for someone to choose me. But how can I really commit to my health, my well being, my emotional development, my spiritual development, whatever that means to you, in a way that you can cultivate peace and contentedness and joy and vibrancy and vitality in your being and trusting that from that place you're far more likely to attract or be attracted to people who are on a similar wavelength and who have similar values, who are looking for similar things. Whereas I think if we allow ourselves to spiral into the scarcity and into the fear and into the I'm running out of time, I'm just going to have to settle for the first person who buys me a drink. Of course we're going to end up with an approximation, maybe a sad approximation of what we truly desire.

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So I've done a podcast episode in the past around how to enjoy being single when I really want a relationship. And I think it's ultimately similar advice but with the overlay of that contextual factor of being in your mid thirty s and feeling like you're running out of time, it's like you can really lean into that experience of where you're at right now. And the season of life that you're in and really embrace that and really make the most of it, really make it juicy and vibrant and vital while also holding the desire and really fiercely holding the desire for partnership, if that's what you desire. So getting really clear, not just like I want a partner, but I want depth of connection and I want commitment and I want someone to build a life with. I want co creation of a vision. I want us to really be supportive of another's dreams, just go really all in on the vision. I think a lot of people in this situation start diluting or watering down their desires, and I would say that's the opposite of what we really want to be doing. Of course we don't want to be overly prescriptive around.

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I need someone who's this height and has all these physical attributes and getting a little bit rigid in what we desire in a partner, in a superficial sense, but really allowing yourself to get very clear around values and desired feelings in the relationship and not really being willing to compromise on the things that you know deep in your heart you're not really willing to compromise on and giving yourself full permission. And I think when we balance these two things, it's like, I'm really committed to creating a vibrant life and a full life, a life that feels rich and joyful and wonderful. And I'm really desiring a partner in a relationship that has these qualities. We are able to hold both and we can go, okay, I'm willing to wait to find that, to find that partner, that kind of relationship. And I don't really need to compromise dramatically on what I truly want because I've got all of this vibrancy and joy and vitality in my life and the season that I'm in. So I think they actually really support each other when we can hold both of those things. So I hope that that's been helpful as like a little pep talk and a little mindset reframe. I know it's really hard, I know it's really easy to feel weighed down by all of those societal messages, particularly as a woman.

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The pressure of time feels really big and really real, but life is long and I'm sure there are a lot of people listening who are much older than their mid-30s who are going, wow, I wish I could snap my fingers and be in my mid 30s again and start fresh. So reminding ourselves it's all relative and we're still alive for as long as we're here, right? Like, today's a new day and all we can do is figure out what our next move is and decide how we want to be and who we want to be and trust that from that place of intentionality and integrity we will be okay and that we can create something really beautiful for ourselves. So I hope that that's been helpful. I'm sending you lots of love to the question asker and anyone else who is in a similar situation and feeling a little downtrodden. And as I said, if you do want to cheque out my Higher Love course, you can use the code Phoenix to get $150 off at checkout. Otherwise, so grateful for you all joining me, and I look forward to seeing you again next time. Thanks, guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment.

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If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here, and I hope to see you again soon.

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The Path to Healing Anxious Attachment

Are you constantly seeking reassurance and security from your partner? You're not alone. Many of us who experience anxious attachment find it challenging to self-regulate and often lean on our partners for a sense of safety. This episode is all about helping you understand and navigate this complex, emotional landscape. We'll discuss the importance of self-regulation and explore the fear of destabilisation and the need to control what is happening outside of us to feel safe. You'll learn how the process of co-regulation can help build your capacity to self-regulate and why it's crucial to trust yourself above all.

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Are you constantly seeking reassurance and security from your partner? You're not alone. Many of us who experience anxious attachment find it challenging to self-regulate and often lean on our partners for a sense of safety. This episode is all about helping you understand and navigate this complex, emotional landscape. We'll discuss the importance of self-regulation and explore the fear of destabilisation and the need to control what is happening outside of us to feel safe. You'll learn how the process of co-regulation can help build your capacity to self-regulate and why it's crucial to trust yourself above all.

But, there's more to it than learning self-regulation skills. We'll also delve deep into the core beliefs that drive anxious attachment. We'll discuss how addressing these stories and wounds can liberate us from the fear of abandonment and feelings of unworthiness. You'll discover how to separate your worth from the behaviour of others and break free from these old stories. We'll also focus on building self-worth and enhancing internal security - two crucial pillars in this healing journey.

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You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship Coach Stephanie Rigg, and I'm really glad you're here. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. In today's episode, we are talking all about the path to healing anxious attachment.

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So this is partly in celebration of the fact that my signature course, Healing Anxious Attachment, is reopening for enrollment tomorrow for the fifth time, but also because I know that a big chunk of my listeners are anxiously attached folks, and I know that many people are on some form of healing journey, whatever that looks like. And wherever you might be in that process, I've actually done a couple of episodes. Previously on a similar topic to today. One of them was the three stages of healing anxious attachment, and another how to heal your anxious attachment. And those two are by far and away the most ever downloaded episodes of the podcast, so clearly there is a demand for this conversation.

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With that being said, I think it's been maybe seven or eight months since I've last broached this topic, so I thought that it was high time I revisited it. Particularly, as I said, in advance of tomorrow's programme launch, but also because, to be very frank, my own thoughts, feelings, opinions, perspectives on this are always growing and evolving. And so today I wanted to talk to you about what the different pillars of that healing journey involve, at least insofar as my experience goes personally, and also the methodology that I teach to my clients and students, and also offering some mindset shifts on this whole idea of healing that we can get really lost in. I think that it's such a beautiful thing to be on a healing journey and to gift ourselves that desire and that process of tending to our wounded parts and unburdening ourselves and growing and evolving and finding a more peaceful and easeful way of being within ourselves and in our relationships. And at the same time, I am acutely aware of the proliferation of products and commercialization and all of that around this healing industry in a way that I think can lead us to feel like we always have to.

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Be doing more and more and that we're never far along enough and that it's meant to be linear and neat and achievement driven and on some sort of defined timeline. And so I suppose I want to offer some thoughts on that with a view to ensuring that anyone who does consider themselves to be on some sort of journey of healing and growth, that we're doing that in a way that feels genuinely loving towards ourselves and caring and kind and self compassionate rather than coming from a place of shame and rigidity and perfectionism and needing ourselves to be other than as we are and where we are. Which I think can certainly be the tendency to see ourselves as something broken that needs fixing, as a problem to be solved, as not enough, as inadequate, as unworthy. And I think that the more we are approaching our growth from that place of self rejection and shame and wrongness, there's a really good chance that we are going to stay exactly where we are, if not to regress or to find ourselves even further entrenched in whatever patterns we find ourselves in. Because shame tends not to be very fertile in terms of what we need in order to really grow.

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I think that curiosity, self compassion, having a really inquisitive mindset towards ourselves, making space for all of our parts and all of our fears and emotions, pulling up a seat at the table and welcoming all of those parts. And seeking to understand and trusting that from that space we can really find a level of wholeness and integration that is very liberating. Rather than needing to exile parts of us or shut down parts of us that we consider to be wrong or unacceptable or inconvenient. So that's what I'm going to be talking about today. Before I dive into that, a couple of quick announcements.

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As I flagged, and as you will have heard me speak about recently, my signature programme, Healing Anxious Attachment, is reopening tomorrow for enrollment. It will be the fifth cohort over a thousand students have been through this programme in the last year and a bit since I launched it. It is my pride and joy and I am really, really looking forward to welcoming the next cohort of students. You may have also heard me announce last week that for the first time ever, I'm running a live group coaching programme as an optional upgrade to the course. So the course in its classic version is largely self paced, so you're getting eight modules of video lessons, workbooks journal prompts, guided meditations, and it really is very comprehensive.

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I have delivered it in that way because I think that it's hard to coordinate time zones, frankly, when you've got people all over the world joining. That's a logistical reason. But also I think the nature of the content is such that everyone will go through it at a different pace and in their own time might revisit it. And so I think delivering the whole course via live calls is typically not the best thing for the majority. But with that being said, I'm also very aware that some people do desire and value that live component and the ability to get direct feedback and coaching and advice from me as they work through the programme, and also a community component.

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So that's what's available in this live experience. Group coaching upgrade to the course that you'll get 690 minutes calls with me over an eight week period, as well as an online community group for you to connect with the other people, and that will be capped at 30 places to keep it nice and intimate. So if you're interested in either of those two options the Course in its classic iteration, or the live group coaching upgrade, which also includes the Course materials jump on the waitlist via the link in the show notes, or you can head directly to my website. And doors will open tomorrow, so you'll get an email when it's time. Second quick announcements just to share the featured review, which is Stephanie's podcast has been a huge help to me in understanding myself and how I show up in relationships.

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I appreciate her compassion and unflagging reminders to stay curious and have made some real internal shifts after implementing her advice over the last few months. Thank you for your work. We're all lucky to have found you. Thank you for that beautiful review. I really appreciate the kind words and I'm glad to hear that you've made some shifts as a result of listening to the podcasts and reflecting and implementing some of those things.

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So I'm glad to hear that. If that was your review, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my masterclasses. Okay, let's talk about the path to healing anxious attachment. So the first key pillar on this journey learning to self regulate. You will have heard me speak previously on the podcast, if you're a longtime listener, about the fact that for most anxiously attached people, it is very, very hard to self soothe, to self regulate, to self source a sense of safety.

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We tend to derive our sense of being okay in the world from our partner and from whatever is going on in our relationship. So if we're okay, I'm okay. If you are happy, I am happy. But if you're not, and if we're not okay, I'm not okay, right? And while it is totally normal and natural to be affected by whatever's going on in your relationship, it's not to say that secure people have this impenetrable armour whereby they're completely fine no matter whatever's going on in their relationship.

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The anxious person, it does tend to be taken to extremes whereby we can go into this state of absolute panic and meltdown for something that is really disproportionate, to be frank, right? So your partner might be slightly irritable and snap at you when you're in the car driving somewhere, and rather than going, oh, okay, they're in a bad mood, we might internalise that and go, Why would they be angry at me? I didn't do anything wrong. Why are they upset? Are they always going to be like this?

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When are they going to apologise? Are they going to apologise? Do they think they can just treat me like this? Spiralling into all of these very anxious thoughts which can then feed on themselves, and you can find yourself in this place of urgent panic, needing to fix it and feeling really dysregulated and thrown off centre in a way that just doesn't really match what's going on. So I think that from that place we can find ourselves very much at the mercy of whatever is going on outside of us in determining our well being in a way that is quite destabilising and quite vulnerable and not necessarily in a good way.

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Right. It means that we are not able to provide ourselves with a strong foundation of resilience and being able to trust that I will be okay. Whatever happens, I'll be okay. I can support myself through it and I can hold myself through it because our experience is I won't be okay. And so instead of learning to build that capacity within ourselves, what most of us have done is learn how to try and control what is going on outside of us, right?

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Because if what's going on outside of me is determinant of whether or not I feel okay inside of me, the answer is to try and control all of that stuff to make sure that I'm okay. And so that's where our behaviours like hyper vigilance and monitoring everything very closely and controlling and testing and tiptoeing and micromanaging and people pleasing, we can see that those are all expressions of this fundamental fear of I need. To make sure that everything around me is such that I don't feel destabilised, that I don't feel unsafe because I am like a sponge for everything else. And I don't have this internal ability to self regulate and to be my own power source such that I've got some backup. If my partner's in a bad mood, I can turn inwards or I can turn elsewhere rather than orbiting around that and urgently needing to fix it.

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And really it's important to understand that your maybe underdeveloped capacity to self regulate is a good way to put it, is not because you are defective or broken or less evolved. It is simply because that's something that when we're all born, no one has the ability to self regulate. Babies are utterly dependent on caregivers to help them via this process of co regulation to develop that capacity, because babies are very much vulnerable and at the mercy of what's going on around them. But for the anxiously attached person, typically that wasn't nurtured enough, consistently enough for that ability to self regulate to properly develop. And so we have this response of hyperactivating in the event that there's any threat to the relationship, because we've learned to derive our safety from the other person exclusively.

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And so to the extent that we feel them pulling away or we feel any threat to that tether between us, our response is going to be very hyperactivated, mobilised, intense. I've got to do whatever I can to restore the connection rather than finding it within ourselves to go, okay, that's not going to work. As my current source of safety, I'll go to one of my other sources. So a really big part of this process of healing anxious attachment is learning to find that backup power source. And if anything, letting that be a primary source of safety for you, so that you can then go to relationships from a really balanced, grounded, self assured place of I am choosing this because I love you and I care about you and I'm investing in this relationship.

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But it is not me coming to the relationship treating you. As a lifeline and desperately needing you to rescue me because I am so terrified of being disconnected from you or being on my own. And that is even if it's not literal and conscious and front of mind, often that is the energy that we are coming to relationships with when we don't have that capacity to self soothe and self regulate. So a big part of that is understanding how your nervous system works. And again, you will have heard me speak about this on the podcast before I had a guest interview with Sarah Baldwin who is an expert in this.

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Also teach a whole module on it in healing anxious attachment. It's consistently everyone's favourite because I think it's the thing that everyone comes to and goes wow, I never knew any of this, right? You might have heard some other stuff about communication or boundaries or healing our core wounds but really the nervous system stuff is like brand new information for a lot of people and it is absolutely a paradigm shift and incredibly, I hesitate to say life changing but I think it really is. It certainly has been for me and that's how a lot of other people describe it because it's like oh all of a sudden I empower myself with tools to be okay no matter what happens, right? All of a sudden we don't have to move through life trying to avoid triggers or trying to avoid challenge or upset or conflict or rejection or abandonment or any of these other experiences that of course are painful and we don't want to go and seek them out.

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But we also don't have to shape our whole lives around trying to avoid them because we do not believe in our capacity to navigate them if they were to arise. So learning to self regulate, learning to be your own sense of safety first and foremost is such an important skill and such an important piece in the puzzle if you really want to shift these patterns. So the next pillar that I want to speak to is self worth and healing of those core wounds of unworthiness and inadequacy and that fear of abandonment that runs so deep for anxiously attached people. So if we could think of the self regulation piece as being the body and the nervous system, this is where we start to look at the attachment wounds and this is really where some of those beliefs of I'm not good enough no one will ever love me as much as I will love them. People are always going to leave me.

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I can never trust in love, I can never trust that people will stay. I'm always waiting for something bad to happen. All of this more cerebral stuff that again might not be front of mind, it might not be the script that you're running in a very conscious way. But oftentimes when we trace down through our fears and the stories that we tell ourselves, eventually we wind up at these beliefs. I have to make sure that everyone's happy with me.

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I can't possibly put anyone out because then they won't like me and if they don't like me, then I'll be alone. Or as soon as we work our way down the chain, we start to see that these beliefs run fairly rampant and tend to be baked in with a lot of shame and a lot of fear and tending to these and really reprogramming some of these old beliefs that are no longer helping us, that were probably never ours to begin with and most likely took root at a time in our lives when we didn't have enough context and understanding for what was going on around us. And we internalised whatever environment we were in as being our fault or a comment on us and our worth tending to. These wounds grieving all of the emotion that's there and what it's cost us to live from this wounded place. That's a very very important piece of the puzzle as well.

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And you can think of that as being almost like as we start to decouple these core beliefs from our emotional experience and we start to go, oh, okay, someone else's behaviour doesn't have to mean this about me. We sort of slowly break that automatic story and tether that we've created in our minds again, most of the time subconsciously. But once we can sever that and infuse or inject all of these other possibilities of okay, that's one possibility. What are the 500 other possibilities for why this person didn't call me back or why this person isn't available to be in the relationship with me or doesn't have the capacity or whatever, right? There are a million different ways that this can show up.

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But having that distance and having enough self worth that we can go I don't need to strive to try and convince someone to show up for me. I don't need to convince people, I don't need to tiptoe around someone else. I don't need to shrink and become very very small and easy and low maintenance in order to be lovable. I don't need to micromanage everyone around me and their emotions to make sure that everything's okay and that they're happy with me because I get my worth from being helpful, right? All of these things are various expressions of these wounded parts and these core beliefs so tending to those and that is a longer term process, right, of understanding those links and connecting those dots and turning towards those stories and seeking to understand again, where did this come from?

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Where did I learn this? And really being with those? And as I said, there's a lot of grief in that. But it's also very liberating to uncover this process that's been happening at a very subconscious level and how that's been perpetuating our hurt and pain and shame and emotional responses. Because when we make things mean stuff about ourselves, when we have these stories and everything that happens around us, we take as evidence in support of these very painful stories.

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Then once again, we're very, very susceptible to significant distress and taking things personally and being very fragile in a way that tends not to be supportive of healthy, secure, grounded, balanced relationships. So that unburdening, that process of healing our core wounds, of building up our self worth, of building up our self trust and our self respect, all of that is very, very important in the healing anxious attachment path. I want to pause there and just point something out which is these two most important pillars are about the self, okay? And that might feel kind of counterintuitive because for anxiously attached people, the impulse, the default is always to focus on the relational piece or on the other person. Whenever I have clients or students or anyone I'm interacting with, when it's about relationship stuff and they're anxiously attached, all they want to do is tell me about the other person and what they did and what they said and what their emotional struggles are and what their challenges are.

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And then my assessment of what they're thinking and feeling, it's always about the other. And that is very much part and parcel. Anxious attachment, as I spoke to earlier, is if I can control other people and gather information about other people, then I can control the environment and the conditions. And in so doing I can ensure my own sense of safety and stability, right? But to continue to do that is to continue to participate in the pattern that is keeping you in this place, right, in this way of being.

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And so it is no accident that the overwhelming focus of my work in helping people with anxious attachment is on the self. It has to be because if you keep focusing on the other and on the relationship, it's actually feeding into this belief of I need to make sure that we are okay so that I'll be okay. Whereas what I want to teach you is I will be okay because I am going to build myself up so that I am okay no matter what's going on out there, right? That's really where that capacity comes from and that self trust and that resilience when we have those two pillars of self regulation and internal security and safety, along with tending to those core wounds and building up that self worth. That's the point at which we can really start to usefully layer in relational skills, right?

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This is where stuff like how do I communicate more effectively, how do I have conflict in a way that is constructive and productive, how do I advocate for myself through boundaries? How do I get very clear on my values and what I'm looking for in relationship in a way that allows me to really back myself and feel comfortable saying no to things that don't work and seeing an incompatibility for what it is rather than seeing it as an invitation to strive and change someone and backflip and change ourselves and do whatever we'd need to do to make it work right. We become so much clearer in who we are and what we're looking for that we can confidently start to apply these skills. Because I think that when we don't have those strong foundations of self and we go straight to setting boundaries and voicing needs, we're doing it from this place of I'm voicing a need. But also, if you don't think that that's a reasonable need, then don't worry about it.

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Or we voice a boundary, but it's so fear fueled and fear driven that it comes out as really us being a tyrant and a dictator and telling someone, how dare you treat me like this? And you better not do that or else. Right. Which is a lot of charge behind that and typically doesn't work very well, right? So I think that having this internal piece and again it's not like an endpoint where you have to get to healed as a destination before you can take these steps but having at least some foundation of internal security in order to then go to the relational piece and be able to calmly advocate for yourself and really be comfortable in what you are expressing and what you are needing and have enough capacity to also have space for the other person's experience.

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Right? When we're in a lot of fear there's just no space for the other person because our whole view becomes very tunnel visioned and very self interested and that's just true for everyone. When you're in fear, you are selfish. Of course evolutionarily makes sense if I think that I'm under threat, I'm going to be watching out for me first and foremost and so I've got to be able to deal with the things that lead me to feel threatened all the time in relationships and a lot of that starts with me. So once I've built up my capacity to come to my relationship without feeling like I'm on the brink all the time, feeling like everything is a minefield and that I'm tiptoeing around, that when there's just a bit more space and ease.

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Then we start being able to layer on these secure communication, secure functioning, secure relationship skills that allow us to really cement everything that we're doing within ourselves and build up a relationship that is different. We get to create new possibilities from all of the work that we're doing because in the absence of that, obviously we just do a rinse and repeat on the things that we've always done. But when we start to have this increased capacity, then we get to forge these new experiences and these new memories. And it's incredible, the ripple effect of one person doing their work on the people around them and the people that they might be in relationship with. So while you can't guarantee that you're doing your work is going to change your partner and to be very clear, that should never be your motive. Please. Again, that is a great example of anxious detachers being other focused. It's like, what can I do to change them? How can I change myself so that they change? No.

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How can I change myself so that I experience more peace and stability and freedom, okay? And trust that from that place I will know what to do and I will know what I need and I will have the capacity to make better decisions for myself, whatever that looks like. It is not how can I change so that I can elicit change in them. But with that being said, oftentimes one person's change will trigger changes in the other because these things are cocreated and they're relational and they're dynamic. And so if you start dancing a different dance, you might notice that your partner shows up very differently because you might not be pushing their buttons in the way that you were before without even realising it.

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Because again, all of this stuff happens very subconsciously. So I did promise that I was going to give some mindset tips as a little wrap up on this. And so I suppose the main thing that I want to say is healing is not a journey with a start and a finish. It's not a destination that you're going to reach. Sometimes I get emails and messages from people asking me if the expected outcome of a course or a programme of mine is that they will be healed.

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And I would never ever represent that to anyone. And maybe the course is inaccurately titled by being called Healing Anxious Attachment. But unfortunately it's hard to add too much nuance into a short and sweet title for a programme. Evolving into a place where I no longer feel at the mercy of my anxious attachment is not a very catchy title, but that's really the essence of it, right? It's growing beyond it's.

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Can I build up my capacity so that my anxious parts are not driving the bus and speaking to my own experience? It's not like I never experience those anxious thoughts, feelings, sensations anymore. It's not that I don't think the catastrophic thoughts or have those insecurities pop up, but it's just I put so much effort and energy and time into building up my other parts and creating more space and really nurturing. Those other parts that are more secure and more grounded in self worth and self respect and self trust, such that the anxious part is much quieter and doesn't have to work so hard because I've tended to a lot of the fear and a lot of the wounding that that anxious part was trying to protect. And so while it's not totally gone, it's not in control of me anymore and it's not something that I feel threatened by or overwhelmed by, it's just something that I can notice and go, oh okay, if I notice myself feeling anxious, what is that telling me and what might I need to do, right?

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It's just asking for my attention and that's okay, I've got enough capacity that I can go okay, I'm feeling anxious, what might I need, right? Rather than going, oh my God, I feel anxious, I've got to do something that means something's wrong, urgent, overwhelming, and then being driven to behave in a certain way based on that feeling. So it's really not about reaching some endpoint, unfortunately. There is no endpoint, there is no healed, there is no clock off work because we're all done and dusted. It's not like that, unfortunately.

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It's a journey. And I think the more that we can yield to that while also not feeling like we have to be fixing ourselves all the time, it's really gifting ourselves a lifelong process of growing and evolving and being with whatever arises and expanding our capacity for peace and freedom and really open hearted love rather than love that is infused with fear and control and insecurity. So lifelong and hard at times. And it takes time. But it's also absolutely possible to grow to a place where anxious attachment is not the overwhelming experience of your relationships, where you have relationships that feel safe and grounded and mutually supportive and reciprocal and where you really can.

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Take in someone's love and trust it rather than constantly anticipating something bad happening or that they're going to leave you or find someone better. All of that is possible and I really, if nothing else, please believe that that is available to you. And as I said, it's not always easy but it is worth it and it is possible. So this has been a long episode. If you've made it this far, thanks for sticking with me.

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I hope it's been helpful and it's given you a bit of insight into what's involved in this journey to healing anxious attachment and developing a more secure way of being. If you've enjoyed this episode, please do leave a rating or a review. It's hugely helpful. And if you are keen to say yes to this work to dive in deeper. Tomorrow is the day for healing anxious attachment 5.0 you can join the waitlist via the link in the show notes or by heading straight to my website and I would love to see you in there if. You are ready to do this work and ready to make a change. Thank you all so much for being with me. I will see you later in the week. Thanks guys.

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Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com. And if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again sooner.

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You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship coach Stephanie Rigg and I'm really glad you're here. You. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of On Attachment.

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In today's episode, we're going to be talking all about why toxic or dysfunctional unhealthy relationships are so hard to recover from. So this is one of those areas where it's really counterintuitive. You would think that a relationship that's been a bit of a train wreck, a bit of a shit show, is something that you're going to leave and feel this big sigh of relief, put it behind you and suddenly you're free of all of that drama and you can move on with your life and be better for it. While that is what it feels like it should be on paper, the reality of it is often much messier than that. And as I said, counterintuitively.

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I think that we can struggle a lot more to detach from and make sense of these really dysfunctional dynamics compared with if we were moving on from a breakup of a relationship that was broadly healthy and stable, you'd think that those ones would be the ones that we'd really struggle to let go of. But that's generally not the case. So I'm going to be unpacking why that is why it's such a common experience to really struggle to not only leave and let go of these dysfunctional relationships, as in getting to the point of breaking up, but why the aftermath can feel so confusing and disorienting. And I'm hoping that in doing that it will not only normalise that experience. If you've been in that or maybe you're in it at the moment and you're wondering, what's wrong with me?

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I know rationally that that relationship was really unhealthy for me. And yet I feel so consumed by thinking about it and playing out all of the what ifs and all of those scenarios. But also that it'll give you some tools to really give yourself the acceptance and the closure that you're seeking in a way that allows you to move on with your life in a healthy way. So that's what we're going to be talking about today. Before I dive into that, a couple of quick announcements.

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The first being you will have heard me mention in the past couple of episodes that Healing Anxious Attachment, my signature course, is reopening for enrollment very soon. In one week, I think from the date that this comes out, there are already well over a thousand of you who have signed up to the waitlist, which ensures you get early bird pricing and first access when the course comes out. And you can join that waitlist via the link in the show notes. I'm also very excited, although slightly hesitant to announce, and I say hesitant because announcing it on here makes it real and forces me to actually follow through on this. But here we go.

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For the first time ever, I'm going to be offering a VIP version of Healing Anxious Attachment, which is more of a group coaching programme than an online course. So Healing Anxious Attachment, in its original form is an online course, so it's eight modules that are self paced and you have lifetime access to those. So it's really comprehensive and has heaps of information and resources, workbooks, meditations, the whole bit. It's a really wonderful course, but I know that for some people, having that additional face to face component and individual support from me is really helpful. But obviously I'm constrained in how many people I'm able to offer that to.

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The last couple of rounds of Healing Anxious Attachment had about 350 people. So obviously, I'm not in a position to give individual coaching and feedback to 350 people. It's just way beyond capacity. So something that I'm trialling for this next round is a capped small group coaching VIP option, and that will be 690 minutes group coaching calls with me over that eight week period. We're also going to have a pop up online community, so there's that support and community connection and a few bonus resources as well.

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So that's going to be capped, I think, at 30 spots. So if that's something that interests you, maybe you've been interested in working with me more closely, maybe you've looked at my Mastermind but not wanted to commit to a full six months. This could be a really great way to get that extra support along with the course itself, in a way that allows you to get that feedback and interaction with me and with your peers that goes beyond just the self paced learning of a course. So, again, if you're interested in that, just join the regular waitlist and that will be a first come, first served when doors open next week for the VIP option. So I hope that people are excited by that.

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And as I said, it's a bit of an experiment, so we'll see how it goes. The second quick announcement is just to share the featured review, which is the kindness, sincerity and compassion that she shares her knowledge with is wonderful. I've already gained so much insight regarding past relationships, current relationships and definitely communication. Thank you for the beautiful way that all of this is given. Thank you so much for that beautiful review.

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I really appreciate it. If that was yours, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my Masterclasses. Okay, all of that out of the way. Thank you for your patience. I know that when it's launching time, when I'm in course launch mode, the introduction tends to be a little lengthier, so I appreciate you sticking with me.

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Let's talk about toxic relationships and why they're so hard to recover from. As I said in the introduction, oftentimes when we've been in a toxic relationship, when we eventually get to the point where that relationship ends, for whatever reason, you would think that we would be really relieved. And I think on some level, we can be the part of us that knows that that was costing us a lot emotionally, physically, potentially, mentally. The part of us that's exhausted and drained might feel a sense of relief that we're through the other side of that. But at the same time, I think for many people, the overwhelming feeling is one of confusion and grief and maybe shame.

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I think that we can have a lot of shame around what we put up with and for how long. I know that I've experienced that myself. But a lot of these relationships end in a way that is not satisfying, it's not tied up nicely in a way where we can make sense of what happened and why. And I think that we talk so much about closure and the need for closure at the end of a relationship, and it's rare that a really toxic, dysfunctional dynamic is going to leave you with a sense of closure. Because if we really unpack, what do we mean by closure?

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It's a sense of acceptance, a sense of understanding what happened and why and the very nature of dysfunctional toxic dynamics is that there's not a lot of sense to it. It might have been very chaotic and unpredictable and confusing and inconsistent. Probably not great communication, probably high conflict, maybe turbulence. You probably never felt terribly validated or understood by this person in a way that really allowed you to feel emotionally safe with them. And so it's almost like you've spent whatever period of time it might have been months, it might have been years, you've spent that time banging up against a wall, trying to make it work, only to then slump down in defeat and just feel totally spent, but also really defeated by the fact that you weren't able to get there.

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And that sort of brings me to part of why I think it's so hard, particularly if you are someone who leans more towards anxious attachment, your baseline tendency in relationships is to just try everything and try it again and again and again, right? It's really, really hard to walk away from a relationship, no matter how dysfunctional it is, because your blueprint is to keep pushing, right, to keep trying to get over the line, to get someone to show up in a certain way, to get them to give you the comfort, the validation, the connection that you're craving from them. And in a weird sort of way, the more erratic they are, the more inconsistent they are, the more your anxiety flares up and really drives you to do that over functioning backbending thing of just trying to get someone to be there for you. Striving proving people pleasing, fawning, whatever it might look like, your efforts tend to ramp up commensurate with their chaos and that's not meant to abrogate responsibility. On one side, I think that these dynamics are almost always co created and we tend to trigger each other into increasing levels of chaos and dysfunction.

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But on the anxious side, and I speak to that experience because I know that so many of my community fall into that camp. On the anxious side, it's likely that you expended a lot of emotional energy and effort into trying to make the relationship work, dysfunction notwithstanding, that you were just trying and trying and trying, and that as that got increasingly challenging over the course of the relationship, your efforts only increased. Right. And you might find yourself isolated from friends and family. You might have really been so consumed by trying to make the relationship work that your world got very small.

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And again, I can relate to this, that you become really insular and maybe you don't want to tell people how bad it is because you're ashamed and you still want to salvage it and so you don't want to taint the relationship and your partner in the eyes of the people in your life. And so you just get very small and you get very private and you don't really have the energy or bandwidth to deal with anything outside of this very important mission to try and salvage this shit show of a relationship, right? And that's really, really hard to not only go through, but then to come out of it's. Kind of like the metaphor or the analogy that I always use is like a bomb's just gone off. You're in this war zone and then you sort of come to and you're just walking around amongst the rubble trying to make sense of it and figuring out, where do I even begin to pick up the pieces from this?

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Because I really lost a lot of myself in those efforts to make this dysfunctional relationship become some semblance of stability and to realise that you just couldn't get there and that you've now got to deal with the aftermath of that in terms of your own sense of self, self esteem, self worth, all of those things. That's a really, really destabilising and disorienting place to be. So I really just want to validate how very understandable it is if that has been your experience, if you've recently gone through that, if you're in it at the moment, or maybe you've gone through it in the past and you've just maybe been hard on yourself for the fact that you haven't been able to let go. I think that in many cases, as much as we can know rationally, that the relationship ending was the right thing, again, it runs counter to everything in your being to give up, right? And just because the relationship was unhealthy, very few relationships are bad 100% of the time.

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And so when all of that stress is alleviated, all of the day to day dysfunction is gone because the relationships ended and you're not having to deal with that oftentimes, you'll be left with this really warped, skewed perception. Of what the relationship was because you're now no longer dealing with the bad stuff, but you have all the memories of the good stuff and you're dealing with the lack of whatever good things were there. So the comfort, the company, maybe there was still intimacy of some sort, all of those things. You're suddenly feeling this gaping void and you really have all of this urge to reattach and reconnect because those things feel so good and to not have them feel so painful. But you have this very selective memory around what the relationship was like.

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And again, I think that's part of our brain and our being just trying to make sense of it and trying to make it hurt less is by convincing ourselves that it wasn't that bad or that maybe it's still salvageable. Or maybe we should have one more conversation just to try and make it all make sense, to bring it all into some sense of harmony or rationality or something that we can tie up neatly with a bow and go, okay, I can accept that now because I can tell the story in a way that feels cohesive. Because I think in many cases we don't have answers. And to tell the story as it happened, we can really struggle to make sense of why we stayed and what about that was appealing to us and why we didn't leave sooner or set boundaries, or why we forgave someone a million times for hurting us. All of those things can be really hard to just look at in the light of day and make sense of.

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And so we do want to find other justifications and other explanations and other ways to spin the story or to salvage that wreckage. So, as I said, I just want to really normalise that. If you have been through it and you've been hard on yourself for that, I think that that's really common, more so than you'd realise. Obviously, I am kind of privy to this because it's my job and I speak to so many people about this, but I think most of us do feel a level of shame and embarrassment. And so we tend not to be very honest with our friends and family when we've been through something like this because we don't want to admit how bad it was.

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And we might judge ourselves for not being stronger, all sorts of things. So just validating how normal that is. And you're very much not alone in that experience. Now, pivoting to how can we help ourselves when we're in this space? I think that the whole closure piece is one of those tricky ones where oftentimes we tell ourselves that we need to get closure from this person in order to be able to move on.

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And as I've said before, the great irony around closure is the relationships that leave you reaching for closure, needing closure, desperate for closure, are probably the relationships where you're never going to get it. Because the person who leaves you in that sense of disarray, going back to that visual of standing amongst the rubble, desperately seeking an explanation and a way to make meaning of it, the person who leaves you feeling like that is probably not the person who has the capacity to give you the closure that you're seeking. Right? We tell ourselves that just one more conversation and then I'll feel better. But remember, this person that you're wanting to have one more conversation with is the same person who hurt you or who was unable to emotionally support you or who you had really dysfunctional conflict cycles with.

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It's the same person. And they probably haven't magically developed emotional capacity and emotional maturity such that they're going to be able to show up to that conversation in a way that will give you the relief that you're looking for. So if that's one of the stories you're telling yourself, I just need to talk to them. I just need to get closure from them, please trust me when I say that your closure comes from within. It comes from finding a level of acceptance.

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And sometimes that acceptance is accepting that you will never fully understand what happened there, accepting that you will never fully know what was going on for them. You'll never know the full truth. You'll never know how they were feeling. You'll never know why they behaved the way they did. All of those things.

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There's this level of, can I just accept that I will never fully understand or that I might never know how they're feeling? And coming to terms with that, making peace with that, and really just letting go and trusting that that's where your closure comes from. It's really an inner peace, rather than finding some sort of outer relational story that finally feels cohesive, because sometimes that cohesiveness just doesn't exist, right? There isn't a nice explanation for what happened that makes us feel better. So we just actually need to self source that level of acceptance and peace.

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The other thing that I'd say is, in the same vein, people often say, like, I can't move on until I can't let go, yet I can't move on. I'm not over them, therefore I can't move on with my life. And again, I understand the sentiment, we've all been there. But I think the really important thing to understand is that your acceptance, your letting go emotionally comes from taking action. So rather than waiting until you magically feel better to move on with your life, to start rebuilding and taking steps towards whatever the next chapter looks like, I think you need to take those steps and trust that the feelings will follow.

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You need to take those steps to create the space in your life for a new version of you to emerge. Because if you just stay kind of static and stuck in this old version where your life looks exactly the same, except now there's this gaping hole where the relationship used to be, then you're going to be feeling that gaping hole every day. And I don't think that it's wise to just expect that to go away. So my suggestion to you is turn over the page and start writing out a new story and trust that you will grow through it and you'll be stronger for it. But there's much more personal power and freedom and liberation in taking that action before you feel ready.

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It's like all of those quotes that you'll see on Instagram. It's like you don't wait until you're motivated to go to the gym. You go to the gym and you find your motivation once you get going. And I think it's a similar principle here. Let's not let our feelings be in the driver's seat of our choices that we need to make to really support our well being.

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The final thing that I'll say here is I alluded to it earlier how common it is for us to isolate when we've been in unhealthy dysfunctional relationships and when we come out of them again, I think that's a combination of not having the bandwidth. If we're just so swept up in a very all consuming relationship where we're pouring all of our emotional and mental energy into trying to make the relationship work and there's a lot of conflict and dysfunction that's really exhausting and it's easy to just kind of organically become more isolated when you're in that. And then I think the other part, which is maybe more deliberate, is we aren't very honest or forthcoming with the people in our lives because we feel a lot of shame and maybe even embarrassment or humiliation about how bad things are and what we've accepted from this person. So if that's you and that's kind of an aspect of what you've been experiencing, I know that it's really hard. I know that your shame will tell you to hide, but the people in your life probably really care about you and really want to support you.

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So I think that opening up to trusted people and saying the honest truth, I don't know how I got here. It was really bad. I was just trying to make it work. I feel so much grief. I feel so lonely.

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Whatever it is that you're feeling, trust that the people who care about you care about that experience and want to support you through it. So try not to isolate yourself. Try to reach out to people. That's going to be a really important part of the healing process for you and really deeply reminding your system that you are loved and you are cared for and that you have lots going on in your life. Because again, it can feel very dark and lonely when we've lost that attachment figure in the form of our romantic partner.

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So supplementing that with lots of other beautiful, loving, nourishing supportive relationships is really, really good. Okay? I really hope that that has been helpful. I know that if you're in this at the moment, it's so tough and it's so disorienting, but I do hope that this has given you a feel for there being a light at the end of the tunnel. If you are going through a breakup and you're wanting some additional resources and tools for that.

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I do have a breakup course on my website called Higher Love. That's a really good one, and it really kind of holds your hand and walks you through the whole breakup process and beyond. So you can go cheque that out via my website and we might link it in the show notes as well. Otherwise, guys, as always, grateful for you. Grateful for your support.

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If you like this episode, please leave a rating or a review or a little comment on Spotify if you're listening there, and I look forward to seeing you next time. Thanks, guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram at @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating.

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How to Manage Jealousy in Relationships

Ever wrestled with the green-eyed monster of jealousy? Well, you're not alone. I'm inviting you to join me on a journey to understand this complex emotion better and explore ways to transform it into a tool for strengthening relationships. We'll explore the various expressions of jealousy, ranging from the healthy to the unhealthy, and shed light on why it emerges, encouraging a perspective of curiosity and understanding over judgement.

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Ever wrestled with the green-eyed monster of jealousy? Well, you're not alone. I'm inviting you to join me on a journey to understand this complex emotion better and explore ways to transform it into a tool for strengthening relationships. We'll explore the various expressions of jealousy, ranging from the healthy to the unhealthy, and shed light on why it emerges, encouraging a perspective of curiosity and understanding over judgement.

Today's episode is especially beneficial for those grappling with jealousy resulting from a partner's past wrongdoings. Together, we'll learn how to create a safe space for addressing these feelings and communicating them respectfully.. So tune in, and let's redefine your understanding of jealousy in relationships.

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You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship coach Stephanie Rigg, and I'm really glad you're here. You hey, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. In today's episode, we're talking all about jealousy, how to manage jealousy in relationships.

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So I think unless you are superhuman, the most confident and secure person to ever walk the planet, you've probably experienced jealousy at one point or another in your relationships. And that's because jealousy is a very, very normal part of being human. But I think that we could all agree that there are healthy, normal expressions of jealousy and then there are versions of jealousy that can really send us to not so healthy places, both within ourselves and our relationships. So I'm hoping that in today's conversation, I can give a bit of context for jealousy and unpacking what might be the drivers of that, if it's something that you experience very acutely in your relationship. And also some tips on how you can talk to your partner about jealousy, any particular situations that might be triggering your jealousy, and how you can navigate those together in a way that hopefully brings you closer, rather than it being a persistent wedge between you that really drives your part and undermines the security of the partnership.

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So that's what we're going to be talking about today. Before we dive into that, a couple of quick announcements. As I've mentioned in the past few episodes, Healing Anxious Attachment, which is my signature course, is reopening for enrollment later this month. Over a thousand people have been through Healing Anxious Attachment in the last year or so since I first launched it. It's a really powerful programme and it's one that I'm always improving and adding more to.

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So this will be the fifth round and it will be the best yet, I have no doubt. If you're wanting to find out more or join the programme when it opens later this month, jump onto the waitlist via the link in my show notes or by heading straight to my website, stephanierigg.com. And being on that waitlist will ensure that you get first access when doors open and also guarantee you early bird pricing, which is $100 cheaper than the regular price. The second quick announcement is just to share the featured review for today, which is I love this one. Like a cup of hot chocolate for the heart.

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If that was your review, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my master classes as a way to say thank you. Okay, let's dive into this conversation around jealousy. So, as I said in the introduction, jealousy is an emotion like any other and as such it's not something that we should be judging as bad. And yet I think for most of us we've been conditioned to see jealousy as a problem, maybe as a sign of weakness or a sign of insecurity. We might tell ourselves a story that if I were more confident or if I were more secure or more something, then I wouldn't struggle with jealousy.

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But I don't think that's true. I think that we feel really ashamed of our jealousy when really jealousy is a very normal and natural human emotion and part of the human experience. The evolutionary psychologists would describe jealousy as a mate protection strategy, meaning when you feel like your relationship is threatened in some way by someone or something extraneous to the relationship, jealousy arises as this emotion that compels you to do something about it, to take action in protection of your partnership. And so when we see it in those terms, it kind of makes sense as an evolutionary protective mechanism that we would feel this jealousy and all of the emotions that might accompany it anger or rage or frustration or fear because it's threatening our relationship. And our relationship is something that obviously we experience as part of our safety and survival.

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So when we look at jealousy in that way, all of a sudden it kind of makes a lot of sense, as do most of our emotions. And if you're familiar with my work, you know that I'm all in favour of approaching our emotions with a level of curiosity and trying to figure out why they make sense rather than just trying to shut them down or shame ourselves or make ourselves wrong for the things that we're feeling. That approach tends to only make things worse, only exacerbate the challenging feelings that we're having because we're layering there's a primary emotion of jealousy or fear or anger. And on top of that we're adding shame and self criticism and self blame, which tends to just add more stress and resistance to our system rather than softening the system and creating more integration. So I suppose the first point here is please don't judge yourself for experiencing jealousy because we all do from time to time.

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It really is a very natural and normal human thing. So let's try and take the philtre of judgement off jealousy as with all other emotions, because there's really very little to be gained by judging our emotions as we experience them. Now, I think the thing with jealousy is, while I can certainly say and honestly say that there's nothing inherently wrong with jealousy, we could probably all agree that sometimes jealousy can be very all consuming and if managed poorly, it can really damage a relationship. So I think that when jealousy gets out of control, or perhaps I should say the behaviours that might be fueled by jealousy can get out of control. That's where we can get to the territory of really harmful, unsafe, disrespectful, untrusting dynamics.

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And I should just clarify here, I'm not speaking about abusive situations, although obviously jealousy can play a part there in domestic abuse and violence and things of that nature. That's not the scope of my work. So really what I'm talking about here is more the behaviours if you are the jealous one of things like snooping or trying to gather information or making accusations or stalking even invading someone's privacy. Kind of getting into this feverish state of thinking that there is this threat to the relationship from something outside and that you go into almost a panicked state trying to regain some semblance of control. And for those who tend more towards anxious attachment, this does tend to look like information gathering and accusation and finding some solace in feeling like you know the truth.

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Because the uncertainty of the unknown coupled with jealousy and suspicion can be just maddening for you. And I say that as someone who has experienced it, as I have, many of the things that I talk about on this podcast. So while jealousy managed poorly can absolutely drive a relationship into the ground, I think that jealousy managed well can actually bring you closer. And that might sound a bit crazy for you if that's not been your experience. And jealousy has only ever been something that has chipped away at the connection and has ultimately maybe torpedoed the connection.

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And that's understandable. I think that in a pretty classic anxious, avoidant dynamic, particularly one where the people involved maybe lack the skills and the emotional capacity to be empathetic in moments and times of stress, which I think goes for most couples before they've done this work, right. We lose our capacity to be caring about the other person's experience when we're under a lot of stress or we feel like we're being attacked or anything in that vein. I think what often happens in that very classic expression of the anxious avoidance dynamic in the context of jealousy is the anxious person. You're probably very hyper attuned hypersensitive to anything that feels threatening to the relationship because the relationship is your lifeline, right?

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That connection is so primal for you and your need to protect it is off the charts. And so any slight hint of a threat to the relationship is going to register really high on your threat levels and you are going to go into full fixing mode or harm minimization or whatever else you might do as a way to try and deal with that threat. Unfortunately, sometimes those behaviours can be unhealthy and dysregulated and highly emotional in a way that is not very productive, that doesn't really allow your partner to meet you in that in a way that is connective and supportive. Now, as always, we have the other side of the coin, which is the more avoidant experience. And we know that the sensitivity is of the more avoided partner, whereas the anxious person is very, very sensitive to anything that threatens the relationship.

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The avoided partner is very, very sensitive to anything that feels like an accusation, that feels like an attempt to control, that feels like telling them they have done something wrong when they feel like they haven't done something wrong. And so to the extent that the jealousy is unfounded and I'll come to what I mean by that in a moment, the extent that it's unfounded, an example might be if you're on the more anxious side and you are very jealous of someone that your partner works with because they have a friendship and you feel really threatened by this person, they might be really attractive or really confident or otherwise have some quality that you envy, and so you feel really threatened by them. Provided there's nothing actually untoward about the relationship. Your more avoidant partner might really not take that very well. Might feel like they're being accused of something that they haven't done where there is no wrongdoing.

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And so they might really be very dismissive or defensive in the face of you voicing, your jealousy, your concerns. They might feel like you're prying and they haven't deserved that level of scrutiny or surveillance. And so they might become very protective. Now, unfortunately, as is often the case in that anxious avoidant dynamic, when not dealt with skillfully, that defensiveness and dismissiveness in the face of your vulnerability and fear tends to heighten things, right? So if you're expressing that you're jealous and insecure and they're telling you that you're crazy and that you're being paranoid, but they're not really engaging or providing emotional support because they're feeling too attacked or like their backs up against the wall, you're probably not going to get much comfort or reassurance from their emotional response.

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And so while you might not proceed with pushing it in terms of outwardly discussing it internally, it's unlikely that you've gotten the relief that you were looking for and then you tend to escalate internally until you next erupt with some other fear driven response. So I think that that's how it can often play out in that anxious avoidant dynamic is you've got hypersensitivity coupled with hypersensitivity to one thing, coupled with hypersensitivity to another. And as always, they kind of click together like puzzle pieces that can really set each other off and exacerbate the other's insecurity, rather than allowing you to build a bridge and come together and find something that is mutually loving, respectful, supportive, of both of your needs. So all of that being said, I did say that I'd speak to this idea of where jealousy is unfounded. And the reason that I want to call that out is because sometimes people are really hard on themselves for being jealous when jealousy is the natural consequence of a breach of trust in the relationship that has happened previously.

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I've spoken about this in the context of infidelity and how to rebuild trust after infidelity. But I think that if you experience jealousy and that flows from a past experience whereby your partner has breached trust in a circumstance that looks similar to the one that you're in now. So if we return to the attractive colleague example, if your partner has previously crossed a line with a colleague in a way that was a breach of trust in your relationship, and then there's a new colleague and they're insisting that there's nothing untoward going on, that it looks and feels similar to you, even if there is nothing untoward going on. I think the person on the receiving end of that probably has to give you a little bit more latitude, a little bit more scope and grace, because your jealousy is the natural consequence of their wrongdoing in the past. So that's not something to overly focus on because as I said, I think ideally we want to be sharing and validating a partner's jealousy, or at least be creating a safe space to bring that to the relationship, irrespective of whether it's founded or not.

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Because I think ultimately we want to be in relationships where we are a safe recipient for our partner to bring whatever they're experiencing and particularly where our conduct is causing them to experience some sort of inner turmoil or insecurity. Very little is gained from bottling that up and making it our problem to solve rather than bringing it to the arena of the relationship when it is ultimately a relational issue. Now, there are better ways to do that and worse ways to do that. As always, I really recommend that to the extent you're struggling with jealousy and you want to bring it to your partner, you don't want to frame it as an accusation. You don't want to say, I'm jealous because you're doing this bad thing, or anyone would be jealous in my situation.

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And why can't you see that? What's wrong with you? Anything like that is immediately going to put someone on the defensive and you're not going to get what you want in terms of having them really hear you and be available to empathise and validate because they're going to be too staunchly in defensive mode and fair enough. So the way that we want to do it is, as always, bringing a combination of self responsibility and honesty and openness and respect. So I think that's really how you deliver it in a way that allows you to come closer into connection as a result of that vulnerability and that openness.

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And so sharing that and saying, I find myself feeling really jealous of this, can we talk about it? I recognise that this might be some of my stuff because I know that I've struggled with jealousy in the past, or I know that I've got some of my unworthiness stuff still to deal with and that that can lead me to feel really threatened by people that I feel intimidated by or that I feel are whatever threatening to me in some way because I really envy them or admire them. So I know that this is my stuff. And at the same time, here's how you could support me to feel safe and reassured and comforted within our relationship. Recognising that it's ultimately in both of our best interests for us to be protecting the primacy of our relationship, rather than letting these extraneous things get in the way of that and fester in a way that ultimately erodes the bond between us.

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You might recall an episode I did recently with Stan Tatkin, who is a superstar in this space. He's written many books and developed his own couple's therapy modality. But Stan has this concept of thirds, and a third is anything that threatens the primacy of the couple relationship. Obviously this is talking about monogamous relationships, but a third could be a person, it could be a child, it could be work, it could be social media. It's basically like anything outside of the relationship that one or both partners feel is threatening to the primacy of the connection.

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And Stan in his work, really emphasises the absolute paramount importance of being pretty proactive about dealing with thirds as they arise, rather than letting them fester because they really can erode the relationship over time and jealousy can turn into resentment and disconnection and all sorts of other things. Whereas if we just deal with them as they arise and we call them out and we bring them to the other person and we have enough of a safe agreement between us that we are going to be a safe landing ground for those fears and those concerns, then that really allows us to approach these issues in a way that is not accusatory and it's not a source of disconnection. It actually brings us closer together because I think to be able to bring to someone your vulnerability and doing it in a self responsible way, that's really a loving thing to do because it's in support of the relationship's long term health and well being. So I hope that that has been a helpful take on jealousy. As I said, jealousy is so normal, it's not something to beat yourself up over.

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Maybe the last thing that I'll add just as I'm speaking now, that's occurred to me. If you're someone who really struggles with jealousy and this is more for my anxious attachers. And you know that you get kind of frenzied around it and you get into such an anxious spiral that it feels like you are possessed by the devil and you're being taken over, and you behave in all of these crazy ways that afterwards you're like, wow, what was that? And you feel a lot of shame. Again, you might be able to tell from my tone of voice that I have experience with that and I have been there.

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I think a really good idea is to call on a lot of those nervous system regulation tools that I've spoken about briefly on the podcast, but also that I teach very comprehensively in healing anxious attachment. Regulating first, rather than acting while fueled by that frenzied energy of extreme jealousy is a really good idea. So I think kind of bringing some stability and security to your body first, rather than just taking that feeling and letting it become like beer goggles, that makes everything feel extremely threatening and everything feels true and urgent and frantic, and you do feel possessed, like you have to act on it right then and there. And that can lead to behaviour that you really do regret afterwards, because it's probably not the most reasoned and rational approach. So definitely don't forget those nervous system regulation tools if you're someone who can get into that state of real panicked anxiety around jealousy.

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Okay? So I hope that that's been helpful. As always, super grateful if you can leave a review. As I said, make sure to jump on the waitlist for healing anxious attachment if that is something that you are interested in checking out in a couple of weeks time. Otherwise, I look forward to seeing you again soon.

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Thanks, guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much.

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Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again soon.

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Navigating Boundaries with an Ex

Ever been caught in that tricky situation of setting boundaries with an ex? Navigating this territory can be a daunting task, especially when co-parenting or shared responsibilities are at play. We promise to equip you with strategies for establishing firm boundaries and prioritising your well-being during this intricate process. Join me, Stephanie Rigg, as we explore a roadmap to conquering insecurities and fostering emotional maturity when interacting with an ex.

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Ever been caught in that tricky situation of setting boundaries with an ex? Navigating this territory can be a daunting task, especially when co-parenting or shared responsibilities are at play. We promise to equip you with strategies for establishing firm boundaries and prioritising your well-being during this intricate process. Join me, Stephanie Rigg, as we explore a roadmap to conquering insecurities and fostering emotional maturity when interacting with an ex.

As we move deeper into the episode, we discuss the paramount importance of self-care when dealing with an ex. It's not just about setting boundaries; it's about setting up your mind and emotions for success. Discover how to handle emotions that may surface during interactions with an ex, and how to break free from unhealthy dynamics. Learn the art of peaceful co-existence as we provide you with tools to rebuild self-trust and look after your mental health and wellbeing. Stay tuned, and by the end of our exploration, you will be equipped to maintain healthy boundaries and navigate difficult relationships with confidence.

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You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship Coach Stephanie Rigg, and I'm really glad you're here. Hey, everybody, welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. In today's episode, we're going to be talking all about navigating boundaries with an ex. So I think that it's fair to say boundaries as a general topic, an area of relationships, something that a lot of people find really challenging.

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I think a lot of us are unaccustomed to advocating for ourselves in a way that feels balanced and confident, while also not turning into a tyrant and dictating to everyone around us how they have to behave. And you would have heard me say before, I think boundaries is one of those areas where people tend to experience a pretty pronounced pendulum swing when they go from never having heard of what a boundary was or never having set one before. And it being a really foreign concept to encountering this body of work and swinging to the other extreme of laying down the law with any and every person that they have any sort of relationship with. And as always, we want to find our way to a healthy middle when it comes to boundaries. And I've got many other episodes around boundaries and I've got a master class all about boundaries.

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So as a general topic, there's a lot to speak to with boundaries, but specifically in today's episode, we're going to be looking at the topic of boundaries as applied to relationships with an ex. So I think in some situations it's complicated due to structural factors. I know I get a lot of messages from people who may be co parent with an ex where there's been a divorce, or still cohabitate with an ex, or share a pet or work together. Any number of other things that make it hard to have a clean break and have really very defined boundaries that allow you to emotionally disentangle yourselves from one another and move on with your lives. While that might be the ideal, I recognise that it's not always possible.

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And so today I'm going to be talking to some specific situations. So first I'll be unpacking why it can feel challenging to set those boundaries with an X. And then I'm going to give a few different examples of how I would navigate boundaries in specific circumstances with an X. So hopefully that will give you lots to work with and lots to adapt and apply to your own situations to the extent that this might be relevant to you. Before we dive into that, a couple of quick announcements.

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The first being you might have heard me mention in the last couple of episodes that Healing Anxious Attachment, my signature course, is coming up again soon, towards the end of the month. I'm going to be reopening the programme and you can sign up for the waitlist via the link in the show notes, which will allow you to be notified when doors open, but also save $100 on the sign up price and access that exclusive early bird pricing. So if you're someone who struggles with anxious attachment and you enjoy what I do on the podcast, and you'd like to dive into my work in a way that really gives you a very comprehensive, deep dive into your experience of anxious attachment as well as the tools to cultivate a secure attachment and secure relationship both within yourself and with the people in your life. Healing anxious attachment is a really wonderful option. So definitely jump on the waitlist if you're not already.

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I think there's already almost 1000 people on the waitlist, which is pretty amazing, but definitely join that if you're keen to secure your place when doors open at the end of the month. The second quick announcement is just to share the featured review for today, which is no matter if you're avoidant anxious or other, if you're open to growth, this is such an amazing thing to listen to. Stephanie speaks so kindly and in such a supportive way and gives such amazing observations and guidance. I can't recommend it enough. I've been working on my self growth a lot in my life lately and this podcast has been a huge catalyst in my growth.

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Thank you so much. I'm so touched by those words and I really, really appreciate being part of your journey. That's really lovely to hear. If that was your review, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my master classes as a way to say thank you. Okay, so let's dive into this conversation around boundaries with an ex.

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Now, as I said, boundaries are really challenging for a lot of us. A lot of us are accustomed to putting other people first, right? To caretaking, other people's comfort, to prioritising other people's emotions. And so the idea of taking action that is in our best interests, that might have an adverse impact on someone else, can feel very, very edgy. It can feel like it's flying in the face of everything that we've ever known to be true about relationships and about what it means to be liked, accepted, loved, approved of.

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For those of us who rely on people pleasing or that compulsive need to be liked and to control how we're perceived by other people, the idea of setting a boundary that might mean someone else is hurt or inconvenienced or upset or disappointed in us, it feels really hard. As I said, I think boundaries with an ex represent a very unique situation because there's a lot of stuff wrapped up in it. So whereas boundaries in a primary relationship, so we'll stick to romantic relationships for the sake of this conversation, whereas boundaries in a primary relationship really require us to find mutually workable solutions. So again, I think this is one of those areas where people kind of misunderstand the point of boundaries. People think that it's about me telling you how to behave with respect to me and if you don't, there will be consequences and it all becomes very authoritarian a lot of the time.

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But I think really healthy boundaries allow us to find a way to be in connection with one another that honours both of our limits, right? It's saying, in order for me to be in relationship with you, here's what works and here's what doesn't. And that obviously can show up in a lot of different ways and expressions. But whereas in a primary relationship there is this need for mutuality and I think the more we can convey the mutual benefit of a boundary, then not only does it become much more likely to stick, but it becomes much less intimidating to set that boundary because it really becomes an invitation into more connection rather than feeling like a wall that is going to keep someone out or push them away. When it comes to boundaries with an ex, I think there is more scope to be selfish and indeed oftentimes setting boundaries with an ex will require you to be selfish in the sense of putting your own needs squarely ahead of the needs of someone else.

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Now, one of the areas that this often comes up is in the wake of a breakup, right? In the immediate aftermath where I'll get messages from people saying, I feel really guilty, my ex is really upset and keeps messaging me or keeps calling me, and I feel so bad. I feel such a sense of guilt that I keep engaging with them because I don't want them to feel upset. And I feel like I've been the cause of that. How do I deal with this situation?

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And I think that that is an area where it's really important that you do set the boundary. Because even though in the short term it might feel like you are causing them hurt or harm by disengaging and by setting a boundary and really holding firm on it, query what you're actually doing by continuing to participate and caretake and be the emotional crutch for someone who you're no longer in a relationship with. I know that it's very hard to set that boundary and I've been in that situation before and not handled it terribly well, but ultimately it just makes it harder for both of you, right? Because provided it's not changing the outcome of the breakup, you're just kicking the cam down the road on that emotional disentanglement that needs to happen. Ultimately, you are going to have to decouple from one another sooner or later.

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And so continuing to be each other's emotional support person throughout that process where you're really tender and hurting is not really in either of your interests. So I think it's a really good example of where boundaries might feel harsh and hard, but they're actually kind ultimately, because they're honest and they really support us to take care of ourselves and they support the other person to take care of themselves in a way that is healthier and more adaptive in the long run. So really emphasising that you are allowed to do what is right for you. Insofar as boundaries with an ex are concerned, caretaking, their feelings, their emotions, stewarding them through the breakup and the aftermath of that really isn't your responsibility and frankly shouldn't be your responsibility for either of your sakes. So full permission to set boundaries with an ex that are selfish, right, that are prioritising your needs and your processing and your moving on above the processing, the needs, the emotions of your ex partner.

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Trust me when I say that it's in both of your interests for you to do that. Now, I said I was going to run through some specific circumstances where you might struggle with boundary setting with an ex and give you just some quick tips around that. So the first one here, and it's kind of in the same vein as what I was just speaking to, is a scenario where you and your ex have never really had any boundaries since breaking up. There's a lot of confusing, conflicting feelings. You still love and miss each other, but you're not in a relationship.

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So you've broken up, but you've still been in frequent contact. Maybe you've still been seeing each other. Maybe you've even still been sleeping together. So I get people asking me what do I do in this situation? How do I let go?

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And I think this is one where we need to have inner boundaries and we need to have relational boundaries. And it's one of those ones that feels really complicated but in fact is very simple. It's just hard, okay? And noticing where that distinction lies, the things that are simple but not easy, I think we'd like to tell ourselves that they're very complicated because that almost gives us an excuse not to act. Whereas if we acknowledge that it's actually quite straightforward, it's just difficult, then it's more incumbent on us to stop participating and take responsibility and do something about it.

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So I think in the scenario where you know you're not going to get back together, you know that the relationship didn't work, but you haven't had that real clean break at any point and there's just been this lagging continuity of contact and intimacy. I think that's a scenario where having a no contact period and really just committing to yourself that you're going to do that and follow through is extremely important. I've talked about self trust a lot on the show before, but I really think that nothing harms your sense of self trust like continuing to knowingly participate in dynamics that you know, deep down are really not healthy for you and yet you do it from this place of, oh, but I can't help it. I think that's a really disempowered thing and it's not really honest because you can help it. You just have to prioritise your longer term well being over your short term desires or impulses.

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And of course that takes a level of emotional maturity and capacity. But you can do that and the more that you do it. So every time you say no to meeting up, or that you don't answer the phone, or that you respond to a text saying, we're not talking and just holding the boundary rather than engaging, every time you do that, you're building that self trust muscle. So if it's that first situation of continuity of contact, you've never quite disentangled. I really, really encourage you to have a firm boundary with a clean break and a no contact period of at least three months, maybe up to six months.

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And then if it makes sense, you can slowly start to renegotiate what a friendship might look like down the track. But you do need that time to have space from one another and to figure out what your life looks like without them being such a daily feature of it. The next situation that I want to speak to is where your ex contacts you periodically wanting to rekindle, or maybe not even in so many words. It's just like you get the occasional text from them checking in and in a way that feels kind of suggestive and like they're keeping that channel open and you find it difficult not to engage or respond. Now, I think this one really to me has a lot of like for people who are in anxious avoidant kind of relationship, I think they can fall into this one really, really easily.

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So if you are more anxious and your ex was more avoidant and they pop their head up every so often and reach out rather than just holding the boundary or seeing it for what it is, your impulse is likely to be, oh, what does this mean and what do they want? And do you think it's because they miss me or do we think it's because of that? And you probably jump on Google and you start trying to figure it out and decipher it. And the idea of not responding is like the most herculean effort imaginable because everything in your being says not only I want connection with this person that I have an attachment to, but also I want the information, I want to know what it means. And so it really, really takes a lot of self discipline to not take the bait in that situation, to not message back, to not find out what they're up to, to not find out why they're messaging you, to not try and dig deeper.

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And to the extent that they do miss you or they are reaching out for that reason, to not really relish the fact that that might be the case, to be able to just say, like, no matter what their intention is, we broke up, and we're having this period of designated space. And I know that that's for the best, and I know that that's supportive. For me to be able to actually just say that and not take debate takes a huge amount of self discipline and then that's a really important internal boundary for you to hold. But I promise you your self trust and your self respect will be so much stronger for it. So having that internal line and then to the extent that this person is persistent or is not really taking the message, I promise you that if you hold firm they will get the point.

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But when you are indirect and you tiptoe around it and you try and do it in a really sweet likeable way so that you can maintain whatever impression they have of you as being very amicable and accommodating at all times, again, that can't be the priority. You need to keep yourself safe. You need to keep yourself emotionally hygienic and clean. And if that means just holding a firm line and disengaging even if it feels abrasive, I think that ultimately that is in your best interest. And again, full permission to put yourself first when you're navigating boundaries with an ex.

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Now, the third and final situation that I want to speak to, which is a little bit more complicated as I alluded to at the start where there are these structural factors that mean you can't have a clean break with someone. So this might be where you and your ex co parent or you work together and you struggle to navigate those boundaries. This really requires us to find some sort of in between boundary whereby we're able to coexist peacefully in a way that allows us to be civil and doesn't SAP us of a lot of energy by being actively involved in dynamics that are either confusing because there's residual love and feelings there or there's a lot of animosity. I think that just declining to participate in those aspects of the relationship and keeping it pretty, not so much formal but somewhat distanced while still coexisting in whatever manner is required of you. So in the example of co parenting, if you know that there are certain triggers in that relationship, for example, someone being unreliable or hard to contact and you need to rely on them because you co parent and you need to be

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able to go between each other's houses or whatever it might be, having very clear boundaries and expectations as between you on how that arrangement is going to work and just not leaving any room for those triggers to arise and clearly stipulating ahead of time.

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For example, if I can't contact you when you're meant to be available, here is what I'm going to do with that. So having as much structure and really pragmatic, practical, pre agreed, almost like rules or governance in the relationship as a way to support yourself, to not be so emotionally open to this person in a way that is likely to pull you back into old dynamics to the extent that that is disruptive of your peace. Now, of course, if you have a really beautiful relationship with an ex and there's no kind of emotional gunk there, there's no real residue and you're able to just peacefully co parent or peacefully coexist at work or wherever else, then that is perfectly wonderful. This episode is really not to say that you need to introduce really hardcore boundaries where they're not needed. So of course, take all of this with a grain of salt and with a level of discernment.

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But to the extent that you are struggling in finding healthy boundaries with an ex in any of these situations or any other situation, my hope is that today's episode will have given you a bit of a feel for not only that permission slip to put yourself first in those situations that you are really allowed to prioritise your well being and your needs and preferences in that situation. While of course, always being kind and respectful, you're allowed to put yourself first even if it means someone else is disappointed or hurt or upset. And I hope that in giving you those situational examples, that you've got a bit more context for specifically how you might tackle those situations. So I really hope that's been helpful. As always.

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Otherwise, thanks so much for being here and I will see you later in the week. Thanks guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much. Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again soon.

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Breaking the Cycle of Situationships

Ever been stuck in a situationship, that in-between space where you're more than purely casual but not truly committed? In today's episode, we're unboxing this modern dating conundrum.

We're peeling back the layers of why we find ourselves in these non-committal scenarios, particularly exploring the attachment drives that can both lead to and exacerbate this dynamic. More importantly, we'll explore how to opt out of this challenging cycle and pave our way towards healthier relationships.

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Ever been stuck in a situationship, that in-between space where you're more than purely casual but not truly committed? In today's episode, we're diving deep into the world of situationships - the gray area between dating and being in a committed relationship. We'll explore the challenges faced by individuals in situationships, the role of attachment dynamics, and most importantly, how to break free from this cycle.

In today's modern dating landscape, situationships have become increasingly common. Individuals find themselves caught in a web of blurred lines, where accountability, responsibility, and duty often take a backseat. The anonymity provided by online dating and technology allows people to keep multiple options open and avoid taking on the commitment or labels associated with a traditional relationship.

While situationships may fall short of what people truly desire in a relationship, it's important to understand why individuals find themselves participating in these relationships even when they desire more. Many hope that they can change the other person's mind and make them fall in love, while others simply enjoy the benefits of emotional intimacy without the emotional labor of a committed relationship.

Attachment dynamics can also play a significant role in perpetuating situationships. A person with an anxious attachment style, driven by a strong desire to prove themselves and earn love, may find themselves gravitating towards hesitant partners. Unfortunately, leaning on potential rather than facing reality can lead to a destructive mindset that erodes self-worth and rarely ends in a successful, loving relationship.

Breaking Free from the Situationship Cycle

Self-Reflection and Awareness

Recognising our own role in perpetuating unhealthy dynamics is crucial. We must become aware of our own tendencies, such as being indirect or not speaking up for our needs. This self-awareness allows us to identify patterns and make conscious decisions to break free.

Clarity and Boundaries

It is essential to be clear on our own needs and boundaries. It's easy to bend the rules for someone we are interested in, but establishing non-negotiables and making decisions in line with our personal goals sets the stage for healthier relationships.

Believing Actions over Words

When someone says they are not looking for a relationship, it's important to believe them. Actions often speak louder than words, and even though it may be difficult to hear, trusting their actions will prevent us from clinging to false hopes and prolonging our own suffering.

Embracing Discomfort

Breaking the cycle requires us to be comfortable with discomfort. It may feel daunting to be direct with someone and risk losing the connection altogether. However, holding onto an approximation of a connection is ultimately a disservice to ourselves. Sometimes, the path to finding lasting love requires taking the road less traveled.

Breaking free from the cycle of situationships will not happen overnight. It requires self-reflection, awareness, and above all, the courage to prioritise our own needs and well-being. By setting clear boundaries, recognising red flags, and embracing discomfort, we can break free from the confines of situationships and pave the way for healthier, more fulfilling relationships.

If you're struggling with attachment issues, remember that change is possible. Join the waitlist for Healing Anxious Attachment, where you'll learn valuable strategies to foster self-love, build healthy relationships, and break free from the patterns that have held you back.

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You're listening to On Attachment, a place to learn about how attachment shapes the way we experience relationships and where you'll gain the guidance, knowledge and practical tools to overcome insecurity and build healthy, thriving relationships. I'm your host, relationship coach Stephanie Rigg and I'm really glad you're here. Um hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of On Attachment. In today's episode we're going to be talking all about the dreaded situation ship. So for anyone who's not familiar with the term situationship, this is one of those dynamics in the dating process whereby you're kind of in a relationship but kind of not in a relationship.

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It might look and feel like a relationship, but you haven't actually progressed to that stage and so you are lingering in limbo or no man's land. And for obvious reasons that can throw up a lot of challenges, particularly if you're someone who leans more towards anxious attachment because having that degree of uncertainty and a lack of clarity around the structure of the relationship, its future, how someone feels about you, all of those things can be really, really hard. It runs counter to everything that you want and need in order to feel safe and secure in relationships. And yet, unfortunately, situationships are extremely prevalent in modern dating and it's something that a lot of people really struggle with. I know because I get so many messages from people.

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So I'm going to be talking about some of the drivers of this on both sides. Why someone might hold on to a situation and not want to commit and why you might participate in a situationship even though you really do want the relationship to be more than that. Why do we stay in these situationships that are clearly falling short of what we really want? And as you can imagine, there are plenty of attachment dynamics that we can overlay onto that that can offer us some really useful insights. Alongside that, I'm obviously going to give you hopefully some tips for how to break and shift out of that cycle if it is something that you find yourself stuck in and isn't where you want to be.

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So that's what we're going to be talking about today. Before I dive into that, a couple of quick announcements you might have heard me share late last week, that the waitlist for Healing Anxious Attachment is open and the course will be relaunching in a few weeks time towards the end of July. For those who are new here, Healing Anxious Attachment is my signature programme. Over 1000 people have gone through this, which is just incredible to be able to say. It's a very comprehensive programme, you get lifetime access, it's an eight week, eight modules, a couple of live calls with me and it really distils down all of the tools and knowledge that you need to cultivate a secure way of being in relationship with yourself and with other people.

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So really breaking down all of these concepts and tools that I teach in a really systematic and structured way. So if you're someone who struggles with anxious attachment and you're keen to dive into my work on a deeper level, definitely join the waitlist via the link in my bio that will ensure that you get a spot in the programme at the early bird price when doors open in a few weeks time. So I will link that in the show. Notes the second quick announcement is just to share the featured review for today, which is having gone through a broken engagement, I hunkered down and started a healing and growing journey. This podcast has been so eye opening and helpful.

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I would not be where I am today without listening and seriously looking at myself without this podcast. Thank you so much for that review. I'm so glad that it's been a source of comfort and insight in a challenging period. If that was your review, please send an email to podcast@stephanierigg.com and my team will set you up with free access to one of my master classes as a way to say thank you. Okay, so let's dive into this conversation around situationships.

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So, as I said in the introduction, a situationship is obviously not a technical term, right? So I don't think that we could rely on any one dictionary definition of this to tell us what a situation is and to tell you if you're in one. But in my mind, it's something that's undefined, something that's falling short of a committed relationship but probably has more regular involvement and intimacy than a purely casual, unattached hookup. So the situationship is not, oh, I've been on two dates with this person and I don't know where we stand yet, and get something that's a notch above a purely casual arrangement, but it hasn't progressed to that next level. And I think another defining feature is it's probably lingering in that in between space rather than something that is just adopting a normal pace of progression and you move through that stage relatively quickly or in a pace that makes sense.

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You're kind of hanging out in that limbo for maybe it's weeks, maybe it's months. When I put this out to Instagram, asking my community there to describe and share their experience of situation. Ships some people said that they've been in situationships for years. So being in these undefined, not really sure what we're doing, but we're clearly attached and involved in some way, but without any clarity as to really what the arrangement was or where it was going. So, needless to say, being in that level of doubt and uncertainty, insofar as your relationship status and where you stand with someone is concerned, that is going to be really, really hard for most people, particularly those who lean towards anxious attachment, for whom any sort of uncertainty can be really challenging.

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So having fundamental structural uncertainty with someone who you are emotionally attached to in some way is going to bring up a lot of your stuff, right? So some of the things that you might hear in a situation shift, I think these are some other defining features, are regular enough contact and communication. So this might be someone that you're spending time with, seeing regularly, having regular contact with, they're kind of acting like your partner, but with no strings attached, so with no accountability, with no responsibility, with no real sense of duty or obligation. So you don't feel like you have any right or entitlement to rely on them or to expect anything from them because you're not dating, right? You're just seeing each other or you're just something to each other, but you're not actually in that next stage whereby you feel like you are able to ask something of them or to be upset with them or any number of other things that would go with being in a relationship.

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So someone that you're in a situation with might say things like I don't like labels or let's just see where it goes, or I'm not looking for anything serious, all the while acting like they're in a relationship with you to the extent that it benefits them, right? So it's kind of all upside and very little downside for the person who is holding out on the relationship progressing to the next level. So unfortunately, I think that modern dating has seen a rise in these situation ships alongside other unfortunate phenomena like Ghosting, because there's a lot of anonymity and very little accountability. So because we're all meeting people on dating apps and it's all happening behind screens and oftentimes separate from social groups and social settings, where it kind of takes you into the real world and makes you accountable. When all of these things are happening in private and happening via technology, it's really easy for people to have a cake and eat it too, to feel like there is always more available, so people are less likely to sign up for things that require them to take responsibility because that requires them to sacrifice something.

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And so there's this sense of not wanting to do that unless they absolutely have to. So that then begs the question of why, on the other side, if you are the person who feels stuck in a situation but doesn't want that, wants it to be more than that, why would you participate in this dynamic when it's uncomfortable and harmful and feels like a dead end? So again, I asked this to my instagram community and overwhelmingly the response that I got was I went into it hoping that I could change their mind, right? I went along with it, I agreed to participate, I bit my tongue about the things that bothered me and did so in the hope that eventually they would change their mind, that they would see how amazing I am, that they would fall in love with me, that they'd realise they can't live without me. And so their initial hesitation or their initial reservations would fall away and then we would progress into a proper, serious relationship and live happily ever after, right?

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So there's a lot of hanging, our hopes on potential rather than engaging with what is in front of us. And you will have heard me say before that this is a really easy trap to fall into as someone who leans more anxious, because not only are we very motivated by connection, but there is this very strong drive to prove yourself to someone, to earn love, to strive to perform and shapeshift. And so someone who shows some interest, that gets us hooked, right? And then if they are hesitant or reluctant in some way, whereas a more secure person might see that as a sign to walk away, a sign of incompatibility or a lack of interest, but someone who's more anxious and struggles with unworthiness, it's kind of like, game on. That's my cue to roll up my sleeves and change your mind, to convince you of my worth, and in doing so, hopefully convince myself of my own worth.

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But suffice it to say, that's a really, really dark road to go down, because as many people attested to when I was having this conversation with them on Instagram, it destroys your self worth, right, because you feel like you've wasted all of this time and a lot of the time it doesn't turn into anything. I would say overwhelmingly, more often than not, it doesn't turn into anything because when people are saying they don't want a relationship, they usually don't want a relationship. They're happy to play pretend on a relationship, but ultimately not have to deal with the hard stuff of a relationship. They just, as I said, get all the upside of closeness and intimacy and sex and company without actually having to have hard conversations or do any emotional labour or be depended on by someone when things get hard. So I think that it's really important to believe someone when they tell you that they're not looking for a relationship, if that's what they say.

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I think if we were to say that's probably the first tip of breaking the cycle of situations is if someone is saying something to you that is brutally honest, like, I'm not looking for a relationship or any of those things in that vein, they're probably telling the truth. And that is not your invitation to make it your mission to change their mind or to be the one to save them or rescue them or make them suddenly available when historically they've been unavailable. Don't see that as your challenge. Now, I think it's really important to also recognise the ways in which we perpetuate these dynamics, because, as always, it's very easy to blame the emotionally unavailable, manipulative, immature person who reeled us in and fed us breadcrumbs and tricked us, right? So many people will say that they'll say I didn't realise and at first it was like this and then all of a sudden it was like that and I got blindsided.

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And it's not to say that can't happen and doesn't happen, but I think oftentimes we tell ourselves that it was more complicated or murky or that we got tricked when really we were being willfully blind to what was in front of us. And I think in the case where someone is inconsistent and unreliable and flaky from the outset, more or less particularly beyond that very initial rush of chemicals, when you're all very excited about each other, once it transitions into something more steady if someone pulls back and is only very intermittently available if they become unreliable and uncommunicative. But then they show up and want to hang out every so often, but only on their terms. I think that people tell themselves that that's really confusing and opaque and hard to read when really the writing is on the wall. So this is all exacerbated by the fact that, again, for someone who leans more anxious, who struggles with unworthiness, your tendency is likely to be very conflict averse.

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And particularly in those stages where you don't feel secure enough with this person to raise any of your concerns. It's likely that you're going to be in a very hyper vigilant mode of observing everything and maybe tiptoeing and maybe lightly trying to suggest or influence and hint at things, but not being very direct in your communication, not really advocating for yourself, not saying, here's what I want. What do you want? It's very much playing into the whole thing, being on the other person's terms, and I understand where that tendency comes from. Of course I'm worried that if I am direct with you that it'll push you away and then I'll lose the connection.

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So I'd rather hold on to this approximation of a connection than have nothing at all. And of course, we can have so much sympathy for the part of us that is so hungry for love and connection that anything feels better than nothing, while also recognising how much it's costing us to play along in that and to put our sense of self on the line. For someone who's not really showing consistent, sustained interest and effort, it really is very painful in the long run, as you probably don't need me to tell you, right? It is exhausting and disappointing. And I think it erodes our self trust and our self respect, because I think a part of us knows that in real time, and yet we're too scared to walk away, we're too scared to say that we want more, we're too scared to really own our needs and our desires and our preferences.

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So with all of that being said, what do we do to break this cycle? Of course, as with any cycle, it's not something that you're just going to flip a switch overnight and all of a sudden, all of your dating woes will be resolved and all of your patterns will have disappeared. But with that being said, I do think there are some simple ish, if not easy, simple things that you can do to start breaking this cycle if you do find yourself in that situation. Ship trap. So as with all cycles, you need to get clear on the ways in which you participate in perpetuating it.

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And I've just outlined some of the things that you might observe in yourself. Those tendencies to lay low, to be indirect, to not speak up, to not be forthcoming about where you're at and what you want. I think you need to know that for yourself. And I think you really need to know what your bottom line is and what your non negotiables are. Because without that, it's really easy to start bending the rules for someone that you're excited about and that you really want to hold on to a connection with.

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Whereas if you've got that level of clarity for yourself on here's what I'm looking for, here's what I'm available for, and here's what I'm not available for, then you've made the decision in advance and all you need to do is execute on it, right? Whereas if you're trying to make that decision in real time, when there's a person in front of you that you really want to build a relationship with and you really want to ignore all of the evidence that is pointing to the fact that that is not going to happen. It becomes much murkier and requires extreme levels of self discipline and self control to actually follow through on that and make that decision when we're already attached. So try and be really clear and self responsible ahead of time in setting those boundaries for yourself. What am I available for if I'm not available for some approximation of a relationship that drags on for months on end without any kind of clarity or consistency, without any sustained effort or interest, let it go.

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Please believe that there is more for you than that, but you're not going to find it if you're wasting your time with people who are not interested in you enough to really make that effort. If someone says that they're not looking for a relationship, believe them. This is one of those things where it's one of those exceptions to that saying of if someone's words and actions don't match up, believe their actions. I think that that's good advice, except for where someone's words are the harder thing to hear. So if words and actions don't match up, when someone's words are making promises or commitments or big sweeping things, when the words are exactly what you want to hear but the actions don't stack up, believe the actions.

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But when the words are not the thing you want to hear. When someone is saying, I do not want to be in a relationship with you, but their actions say otherwise. Believe their words, because their words are hard, right? Their words are them being honest, whereas their actions are probably them having their cake and eating it too. So I know that that's hard to hear.

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I know that everything within us wants to believe otherwise. But that's one of those things that I think you should really take at face value. And I don't know about you, but for me, I don't want to be in a relationship that I've had to really fight for someone to want. I think that that's a really hard thing to build on. And I say that having been in that situation, I was in something that we could call a situation for many months and it ultimately did turn into a relationship and a long term one.

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But it was really unhealthy. Very unsurprisingly, because it was built on this foundation of a lack of trust and a lack of respect and just feeling so insecure from the outset because it hadn't started on very good terms. And I think that that is probably going to be true in the few cases where the situation becomes something more is it's just not a very nice start. It's a start where you feel like you've had to persuade someone to be in a relationship with you at all and that's just setting the power imbalance at a really skewed level. That's not going to set you up for a relationship based on reciprocity and mutuality and balance and fairness and all of those other things that really allow a relationship to thrive.

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So take someone at face value, take their behaviour and their words at face value, particularly when those things are pointing to them not wanting to be in a relationship, if that is what you want. So I hope that that has been helpful, as always. If you've enjoyed this episode, let me know. Leave a review, leave a comment on Spotify, leave a rating, share it with the people in your life. All of that is hugely helpful for me in continuing to reach more people with the show, but otherwise I look forward to seeing you later in the week.

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Thanks, guys. Thanks for joining me for this episode of On Attachment. If you want to go deeper on all things attachment, love and relationships, you can find me on Instagram @stephanie__rigg or at stephanierigg.com and if you enjoyed this episode, I'd be so grateful if you could leave a review and a five star rating. It really does help so much.

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Thanks again for being here and I hope to see you again soon.

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